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Forum topic by CausticGuy posted 12-23-2016 10:53 PM 414 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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CausticGuy

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12-23-2016 10:53 PM

I’m building a day bed of sorts and I have a couple questions on the best way to join the back and sides together and then to the frame.
There’s some substantial weight on the back and sides with 1 7/8” maple, the “spindles” are 3/4” I was thinking to dowel the tops and bottoms of the spindles and use screws in from the bottom up through the bed frame into the back and sides. I wanted to avoid doing a rabbet because I’d have to make filler pieces and if I can, avoid screwing through the to into the spindles and plugging them but I’m worried it won’t be strong enough.
My design is loosely following this. But I have a 1×6 laying flat then a skirt board and legs for a bit more strength.


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#1 posted 12-23-2016 11:22 PM

Doweling the spindle is definitely fine. No need for screw holes to show through.

A series of dowels to hold the sides to the back is probably fine as well. A mortise and tenon would have been great, but dowels with a similar total glue area will be fine as well. Dowels can be quite strong.

Screws and glue to hold the whole thing down from the underside of the fame would be OK. I’m not sure how just screws would do there, as there could be a lot of outward force from people leaning on the rails.

I’m not expert, but i hope those thoughts help.

Brian

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#2 posted 12-23-2016 11:27 PM

I love the design!!!!

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#3 posted 12-23-2016 11:34 PM

A tip, for your future projects plan ahead for what/how you want to join things.

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#4 posted 12-25-2016 04:45 PM

An item that large I’d design with the ability to take it apart for moving etc. If it’ll be against the wall you can use Knock Down Hardware (KD) and screw through the back into steel cross dowels in your sides, with the cross dowels inserted from the underside.

Look at these;
http://woodworker.com/14-20x13mm-steel-cross-dowel-mssu-812-613.asp
http://woodworker.com/30mm-small-head-connector-bolt-bronze-mssu-812-543.asp

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CausticGuy

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#5 posted 12-27-2016 04:06 PM

Thanks for the insight guys. This is my first project in 14 years, so I was second guessing my attachment methods. I will also look into making the rails removable. The frame is done now it’s heavy!

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#6 posted 12-27-2016 04:10 PM

Thanks for the insight guys. This is my first project in 14 years, so I was second guessing my attachment methods. I will also look into making the rails removable. The frame is done now it’s heavy!

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#7 posted 12-27-2016 05:05 PM

As for me I would be concerned with almost any joinery ,this design is more of visual design, decorator piece versus a functional piece of furniture,if you weigh 90 lbs and don’t put a lot of pressure on the back perhaps it could used ,but keep it away from active children or pets. the design looks cool but it’s not a real sturdy design.

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#8 posted 12-28-2016 12:17 AM

Truth be told, it’s a bed for our cat.

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