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Forum topic by KTMM (Krunkthemadman) posted 08-09-2010 10:48 PM 2163 views 0 times favorited 20 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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KTMM (Krunkthemadman)

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08-09-2010 10:48 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw question

I have an R4511 and love it. I even went to the trouble to get and Incra TS-LS 32, and build a 2’ x 6’ mobile base for it. I have a router extension, and a storage extension also.

The problem I have is that the whole setup weighs too much. It has made the floor in the center of my shop sag from the weight. I went to the trouble of removing the center of my table saw base (it was MDF) which seems to have helped the problem. Aside from this, before I built the base, the herculift setup didn’t work so well either, as it wouldn’t roll so well on the plywood floor. I figured when building the base, that distributing the weight further apart might help with some of the problem.

Long story short, I’m considering downsizing to a 3650 as the R4511 is a pretty heavy saw with it’s beautiful granite top.

Also, I’ve already considered reinforcing the floor, but considering my current finances, I don’t think that’s going to be in the near future…

P.S. I’m keeping the Incra…..

-- Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect. Vince Lombardi


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SnowyRiver

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#1 posted 08-09-2010 11:53 PM

I dont know much about the Ridgid saws, but I favor a heavy saw. I think they are much more stable and its much easier to cut large pieces on them without them moving around. I would try to save it by reinforcing the floor if you can.

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#2 posted 08-10-2010 12:54 AM

Me thinks, if your saw is making your floor sag…. it’s the floor that is sick and not the saw. I’d work on the floor and keep the saw, as to me, you’re going to have to do it before long anyway…

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#3 posted 08-10-2010 12:57 AM

I would get rid of that granite topped saw and grab a TS3650 if you can find one, they are excellent tools.

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#4 posted 08-10-2010 02:14 AM

Can you store your saw more towards an outside wall? A 3650 will cut fine, but you’ll be giving up a lot of mass and stability, a riving knife, plus the benefits of the hybrid design and cabinet mounted trunnions.

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#5 posted 08-10-2010 02:58 AM

Yeah the saw is already up against the left wall, It can’t be moved any closer. The shop is a pre-fab HD special, it came with the house when we bought it last year. It has a/c and power…..

Also, the reason I mention the 3650 is that I know a local guy that has one , and would probably be willing to trade with me + a fair bit of hardwood lumber. His shop is a monster and the amount of stuff he does, I think he could really use the saw. Anyway, with the size of my shop, I can’t cut a full sheet of plywood on my table saw (the inside is about 15.5’ by 11.5 and the doors don’t open a full 4 feet). I thought about this a lot before posting anything.

All in all, I haven’t made my mind up yet. I really like the riving knife, and there’s always tomorrow to build a bigger shop (many tomorrows away).

-- Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect. Vince Lombardi

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#6 posted 08-10-2010 04:54 PM

Other than not having a riving knife the 3650 is a great saw, don’t get me wrong. That said, not sure I’d let my R4511 go for anything less than an upgrade to a full cabinet.

The real question is will the floor hold up to a contractor saw? It may be that you’ll lose a better saw and still have the same issue.

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#7 posted 08-10-2010 05:49 PM

I would sell mine if I was getting a better hybrid, I only have 110 volt in the shop so I’m stuck with the hybrids. It makes my floor sag even after putting down a extra layer of 3/4” ply. I did stack up some blocks under the part of my floor wher the saw sits, and it has helped a lot.

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#8 posted 08-10-2010 05:51 PM

What kind of foundation do you?

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#9 posted 08-10-2010 05:58 PM

Assuming you could get under the floor, bolstering it would be easy to cost out: Some supports running crosswise of the joists—maybe two 4×4s—supported in two places each. Maybe $40 or $50 with plinth blocks?

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#10 posted 08-10-2010 09:19 PM

Pull the ply up and build a giant torsion box.

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#11 posted 08-11-2010 06:02 AM

how much would you be selling for and where would you happen to be located

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#12 posted 08-11-2010 07:01 AM

You know, I should word things better. When I say the floor of my shop sags, I think that flexes would be a better word. I’m not in fear of my floor falling through any time soon, but the saw table seems to want to “settle in”.
The album with pics of the table saw base is here.

I haven’t made up my mind on what I want to sell the saw for, or even if I want to sell it. I’ve had it for right at a year, I bought the riving knife, and new belts for it. Of course, unlike some lucky folk, I paid the full $600 for mine : P
In the pictures, where the planer is, I had built an MDF box, that replaced the hinged dust door, and provided more storage space. That was the part I removed to lighten things up a bit. (It helped)

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#13 posted 08-11-2010 08:08 AM

just reinforce the floor in ONE area if possible, I don’t know how your floor is constructed but why get rid of the perfect saw? fix the imperfect floor…. plus never get a lightweight saw for a shop….they suck in everything except portability.

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#14 posted 08-11-2010 03:56 PM

I would reinforce the floor.

for ABrown. If you want a cabinet saw for 110 volts, think about an older “bullet motor” Unisaw. I have been using mine for 5 years on 110 volts. Prices vary. $300 – $800, depending on condition, fence, etc

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KTMM (Krunkthemadman)

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#15 posted 08-11-2010 04:14 PM

Well, after all the comments, I think I will keep the saw I have. The riving knife is a great item, I really forgot what having to use a splitter guard was like. Also, I did a little more research on my platform design, and I think I’m going to get another set of casters to go in the middle. I’ve been wanting to re-level the shop building. It might be a good idea to go ahead and add a couple more 4×4’s to the underside when I do that, the cost shouldn’t be too bad….

Thanks for all the comments and input.

-- Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect. Vince Lombardi

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