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Forum topic by Bobby posted 12-16-2016 03:18 AM 672 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Bobby

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12-16-2016 03:18 AM

Hi all… I almost pulled the trigger last night on a chuck for my tail stock from Amazon. At the last minute I held back until I checked if it was going to fit.

Well, it doesn’t – I think. As the photos show, the point slides off the shaft. There is a bearing in there. The hole is about a quarter inch… too small to take the chuck, no?

I suppose that, if in fact I can’t use a chuck I will have to drill my reference holes by hand, huh?

Bobby


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Nubsnstubs

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#1 posted 12-16-2016 03:50 AM

Chucks don’t work on the tail stock. They are for the headstock, but some people buy an adapter to use the chuck at the tailstock to mount the finished form onto a jam, rim or vacuum chuck…....

What you’re showing in the pictures is a live center and that’s where it’s designed to work. You have taken the bearing off the arbor, which looks like it should be a MT2. You should be able to eject the arbor that is still inside the quill by turning the handle in such a manner that it will retract the quill until the arbor self ejects. Sometimes they won’t self eject. Don’t fret just yet. If the shaft that the handle is attached to has a through hole, get a rod about 8MM or 5/16” od and about the length of the quill and shaft. Use that as a knockout rod. Don’t beat it into submission, but give it small impact type hits. It should knock it out.

How did you manage to remove that bearing off the arbor?? .......... Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson) www.woodturnerstools.com

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MrUnix

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#2 posted 12-16-2016 03:57 AM

I believe he is looking for a drill chuck (hence the drilling by hand comment), which would normally be mounted on an MT1 or MT2 taper. Or maybe I’m wrong, which happens a lot.

Cheers,
Brad

PS: If the tail stock has an MT2 taper, you can get a 1/2 inch drill chuck from HF for about $11.25 (they are on sale and there is a 25% off coupon on the web site currently, good through 18-Dec-2016). Edit: Whoops… Just saw the location… Being in Canada, I guess that deal might not be an available option :(

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#3 posted 12-16-2016 04:03 AM

The live center appears broken, I would send it back and get another.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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Nubsnstubs

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#4 posted 12-16-2016 04:19 AM

Well shucks, Brad, we both can’t be wrong. And, wachu doing commenting on chucks, huh? hehe

But, if I’m wrong, and it’s starting to look that way, what you need, Bobby, is a drill chuck with the proper arbor to fit your quill. I’ve seen the combination chuck and taper for just under 20 dollars.

You do need to know the size of the quill taper. After you extract the existing arbor still in the quill, check the hole size in the quill. If it’s near 3/4”, it’s a MT2…. ...... Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson) www.woodturnerstools.com

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HokieKen

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#5 posted 12-16-2016 12:56 PM

What they said^. FWIW, I have the HF chuck and it is surprisingly good. Smooth action, jaws are axisymmetric, taper is sized properly and has proper finish and everything is concentric. Even without a coupon, it’s a bargain.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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Bobby

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#6 posted 12-16-2016 06:08 PM

Geez… so sorry to be calling for help in a panic before doing some research first. But actually I didn’t know anything about it before seeing what you guys had to say.

Mr.Unix… indeed a drill chuck for the tail stock is what I am referring to.

Jerry… indeed the MT2 would be the one I need to use it in the tail stock. As I’ve said before… I’m a total newb at this turning thing and am starting to slowly learn lathe “lingo.” The hole size in the quill is just as you say… almost 3/4”.

They have on on Amazon for $43 bucks. We don’t have HF here in the great white north so ordering it from there would cost more for shipping than the price of the chuck. And then there’s the American/Canadian dollar exchange rate to consider.

As for how I got the bearing off… actually, it just slides off the quill with a moderate pull. It rides on the outside of the quill so there’s no taper to deal with. And yes… it come’s with a knockout rod to take it off.

Someone was saying how woodturning really sucks up your time… and your money as well!!! Gotta say it’s worth it as I’m having a ball!!!

Thanks again for all your help… so very much appreciated.

Bobby

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#7 posted 12-16-2016 06:31 PM

I have this one and it works a treat. I use it in both tailstock and headstock, as needed. https://www.amazon.com/KEYLESS-DRILL-CHUCK-JT1-2MT-TAPER/dp/B01GOLA4TK/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1481912857&sr=8-10&keywords=%232+morse+taper+keyless+chuck

-- Living In The Woods Of Beautiful Bonney Lake, Washington

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Bobby

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#8 posted 12-16-2016 06:52 PM

Madrona- Thanks for that. I checked your suggestion at Amazon Canada where it says “out of stock” so they’re not giving a price for it. But past experience has shown me that a price in Canada is usually double or even triple more than the price in the US.

And so that being said, here’s the one I’m looking at for around the same price as yours would be when currency exchange, duty costs and delivery costs are factored in to the final price.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B004CVJC20/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2GNRYLKNUD61U&coliid=I1Q6UVY8S671LZ

Thanks for your help and reply!!!

Bobby

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#9 posted 12-17-2016 02:45 AM


Madrona- Thanks for that. I checked your suggestion at Amazon Canada where it says “out of stock” so they re not giving a price for it. But past experience has shown me that a price in Canada is usually double or even triple more than the price in the US.

And so that being said, here s the one I m looking at for around the same price as yours would be when currency exchange, duty costs and delivery costs are factored in to the final price.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B004CVJC20/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2GNRYLKNUD61U&coliid=I1Q6UVY8S671LZ

Thanks for your help and reply!!!

Bobby

- Bobby

Bobby you can do much better, Amazon.ca is too expensive.

http://www.busybeetools.com/products/drill-chuck-0-1-2in-jt33.html

Even Lee Valley is less costly.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=49251&cat=1,180,42334

KMS has also some.

https://www.kmstools.com/search/results?zenid=da19b3cf9d53b8333041286403418c6c&inc_subcat=1&search_in_description=&categories_id=&keyword=drill+chuck

-- Have fun and take care

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Bobby

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#10 posted 12-20-2016 11:39 PM

Unfortunately I had already put in my order from Amazon. It came today and I have to say that I’m pretty impressed with it. It seems to be very well made and it fits the lathe like a glove. I’m going to hold on to it but for sure when the time comes that I need something else I will check out the stores that you mention. I’ve been ordering from Amazon for years and I tended to think that they were the only ones to deal with. Kinda like being brainwashed. :)

Thanks all for the help.

Bobby

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