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Forum topic by Bradb7888 posted 12-15-2016 01:29 AM 821 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-15-2016 01:29 AM

Topic tags/keywords: antique vintage restoration jointer planer

I’m new to the forum and seeking some information..
I’ve recently been offered (for free) a very old jointer made by Beach Mfg Co of Montrose, PA. The tag on the machine with the serial number and model number are worn, all I can make out is the shop number. From what I found in my research, Beach Mfg Co was around from the 1800’s to the late 1980’s, taking on various names through the years. I have been unable to find any other jointer from this manufacturer to compare it to.
All I know about the machine is that it was donated to a school wood shop and has not been used in at least 10 years, it runs on 220v and there is no outlet where it is to plug it up and run it, and it is very heavy.
I have been in the market for a jointer and a planer and this offer fell into my lap with perfect timing. Before I haul this thing off and gain a new dust collecting ornament in my garage, I thought I would see if anyone had some info on the manufacturer or any general advice.
Am I going to get this thing home, run 220v in my garage just to find out that I need to replace the motor/bearings/blades/belts when the manufacturer has been out of business for 30 years? Or do these old machines outlast new big box jointers and planers?
Would I be able to get anything for it if I turned around and sold it?
Is this an offer I would be crazy for passing up or will I see it when I open my garage a few months from now and wonder why I ever bothered with the thing?
I have added some pics, any information or advice is welcome and appreciated.


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#1 posted 12-15-2016 01:30 AM

hella sweet.

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#2 posted 12-15-2016 01:36 AM

Well if you decide you dont want it, tell me where you are and I’ll take it ! :)

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#3 posted 12-15-2016 02:36 AM

I had one just like it and it worked great. I upgraded to a long bed 6” jet. I gave the old one to a friend.

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#4 posted 12-15-2016 02:38 AM

I appreciate the enthusiasm, but I am still concerned that it may be a hassle to get going or find parts for. Does anyone have experience with old machines like this? I read through some similar threads on the forum and people were talking about replacing motors and bearings, I just didn’t know if that was easy on a machine manufactured by company that is out of business.

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#5 posted 12-15-2016 02:45 AM

Take it use until it doesn’t work anymore. If it can’t be fixed sell it for scrap. You will still be money ahead. Anything free that works is a good deal.

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#6 posted 12-15-2016 03:10 AM

Are there parts missing?
I like it and not because it’s direct drive.

Aj

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#7 posted 12-15-2016 03:13 AM

As far as I know, it was donated in working condition. Other than sitting for 10 years, it should work.

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#8 posted 12-15-2016 03:18 AM

I’ve installed new bearings in two jointers and it’s pretty easy. New belt and knives would be no problem. It looks complete in the pictures. The biggest issue would be the motor. You presently don’t have 220 in your shop, and you don’t know if the motor runs anyway. If you have to replace the motor, you could potentially go with a 110 version and avoid re-wiring. What size is the jointer – 6”, 8”? All things considered I think I would grab it. I say that after having turned down a free 6” jointer two days ago.

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#9 posted 12-15-2016 03:33 AM

Am I going to get this thing home, run 220v in my garage just to find out that I need to replace the motor/bearings/blades/belts when the manufacturer has been out of business for 30 years? Or do these old machines outlast new big box jointers and planers?

Maybe, maybe not. That machine does not look all that old, and Beach Mfg. was in business until about 1982 according to the info over at the vintage machinery site.

But for any old machine, you really want to replace the bearings and belts anyway and have the knives sharpened. Motors will last forever if properly maintained, which generally involves nothing more than keeping the thing from getting packed with sawdust and replacing the bearings every 20 years or so depending on use.

If it has babbitt bearings, then those can be a bugger to re-pour if needed. But if they were kept oiled when it was in use, then they are probably just fine. And the motor might be three phase, which would involve not just running a 240v circuit, but also getting a VFD or phase converter to run.

I’d grab it… and if it turns out not to be something you can’t use, I’m sure there are a few hundred people here and at places like OWWM that would be all over it. They don’t make machines like that any more, and you will not find anything on the market today anywhere near as robust or solidly built.

Cheers,
Brad

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#10 posted 12-15-2016 04:51 AM

Buy that free thing, you can’t go wrong with a machine or deal like that, especially at the cost of just a few grunts. As previous posters have stated, there’s not much to go wrong, replace bearings, belts, sharpen blades, get to work. If the motor is dead, take it to an electric motor rebuilder and and in 5 days you have a fully rebuilt, brand new motor for the fraction of the cost of replacement. Even replacing the motor would be a very reasonable cost for the machine that you get in the end. Good score, you will enjoy that machine!

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#11 posted 12-15-2016 05:34 AM


Is this an offer I would be crazy for passing up…

- Bradb7888

Yes, especially if you have the space for it and the wherewithal to transport the thing home.

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#12 posted 12-15-2016 02:21 PM

Thanks for all the helpful responses, I really wasn’t expecting so many so quickly. I’m going to try to pick it up this weekend. Now I have to figure out how to run 220 outlets in the garage…

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