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TopamaxSurvivor

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08-08-2010 05:45 AM

Topic tags/keywords: plane set carpenters

OK, all you hand planers eat yoiur hearts out when you see this ;-)) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370417675927&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence


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#1 posted 08-08-2010 06:07 AM

WOW that’s a nice complete set. Especially with the ones with the Razee totes. Can’t afford the going bid. imagine by posting it here, the price will be a lot higher. I know I posted a link to a plane on here last week that usually sells for around $5 but it went for closer to $30 and I am pretty sure it was because I posted it here.

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#2 posted 08-08-2010 07:04 AM

It is listed as a buy it now. Who ever wants it first will be the lucky guy:-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#3 posted 08-08-2010 08:24 AM

drool what a colection but way out of my leage for now its around 30$ a piece + shipping+ import tax to Denmark :-(

thankĀ“s for making my day Topa …....... :-(

take care out there
Dennis

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#4 posted 08-08-2010 08:41 AM

I’m not even gonna drool, too much stuff already ;-)) Geez, am I getting sensible in my old age ????? :-(( Sure would be fun to play with, eh?

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#5 posted 08-08-2010 01:16 PM

yep surdently wood bee a niice day if it cuold happen :-)

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#6 posted 08-08-2010 03:57 PM

I see these in antique shops and shows all the time, and I know I’d someday regret not picking these up as I see them. I favor my Stanley and Record moulding planes, which are all metal, but I really don’t know how to use these all-wood specimens. I wonder if this type of molding plane is truly more desirable than others on anything but softwoods. The ones I’ve seen all seem to have cutters that look more like soft iron than tool steel. Looks like somebody took a great deal of time to assemble this set!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#7 posted 08-11-2010 04:53 AM

Did you buy them?

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#8 posted 08-13-2010 02:43 AM

Hmmmm….very very interesting. Some years back my father in law gave me HIS fathers planes (wood frames like the link), including a Stanley 45 over 100 years old.

Maybe I better go open the box and really take a look at what I have.

Phil

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#9 posted 08-13-2010 03:33 AM

Interesting but I like the set of planes we have in our shop better. It’s more complete, versatile and they’re all tuned and sharpened. We use them a lot.

http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/A+Visit+To+Clark+Williams.aspx

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#10 posted 08-13-2010 04:18 AM

The question is for those who have bought these or have good knowledge of them . is the buy-it now price reasonable? ($738 + SH)

Rob

-- Rob-Yorktown "Shop's still not done, Tools are bought, Wood is bought, need to find time to start a project.."

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#11 posted 08-13-2010 04:33 AM

Considering the apparent completeness of the set, if they area all complete and in good condition, the price is probably pretty accurate. I wouldn’t put up that kind of money for the set on Ebay simply because I can’t inspect them, but if they are in really good condition, they could bring that price in a collectors auction.

Doc

-- Hey, woodworking ain't brain surgery. Just do something and keep trying till you get it. Doc

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lwllms

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#12 posted 08-13-2010 04:49 AM

Rob,
To me it appears an odd assortment of planes. It sounds, from reading the description, that a tool collector assembled the set in the 1980’s. Given the odd assortment of profiles, I seriously doubt these were ever one person’s working set. It’s hard to say from the photos that it doesn’t appear that these planes have been used any time recently. My best guess is that they haven’t been used at least since before World War II. The toted planes are match planes that come in matched pairs. That there are three of them suggests one is missing if they were even originally together. Hollows and rounds were sold as pairs but I can’t find anything that looks like pairs. Ohio Tool, DR Barton and Greenfield are pretty common makers. and these planes look to come from the late 19th Century or early 20th Century.

Are they worth $30 a plane to you? $30 isn’t a bad price for a wooden plane but it’s far from inexpensive if you attend tool collectors meets or old tool auctions.

on edit: I forgot to mention that wooden planes were usually sold unfinished. For an extra price some makers offered them “polished,” usually a coat or two of shellac. Planes from the same working kit almost always look to have the same finish and color. The finish of these planes vary and the coloring is different.

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#13 posted 08-13-2010 05:12 AM

Looking at the enlargements, it appears there some look like solid blocks (second from the last photo), some look like they have wood insert strips (fifth picture) and one two looks they have been repaired (eighth picture, bottom plane.) Is this typical for planes this old?

-- Rob-Yorktown "Shop's still not done, Tools are bought, Wood is bought, need to find time to start a project.."

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lwllms

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#14 posted 08-13-2010 05:29 AM

The planes with the “wood insert strips” are boxed. They’re side beads and the boxing is used where fine details are very prone to wear but other profiles are often boxed as well. I do see a plane that appears repaired and I’m not sure what to make of it.

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#15 posted 08-13-2010 05:32 AM

Agree with lwllms. I noticed also that they looked like a mis-matched set; hollows and rounds not together, different manufacturers, and different over all condition. Some of them are in really nice shape though. They all appear to be capable of being placed into service. I am sure some nice moldings and such could be made with them.

Rob, the planes appear to be made from solid beech, typical for these planes. Also typical are the inserts you see, those are placed to enhance wear resistance at points of high pressure and friction. They will emplace a harder, denser (albeit more expensive) wood such as lignum vitae to give the plane longer life.

30 bucks for a wooden plane is a great deal when you consider the cost of a new one. Check Clark and Williams and see what kind of money these planes can fetch. Grouped together like the ones on this auction, however, I am not sure I would pony up the money. It is a nice set, but for over 700 dollars, I would pass on it. You have to consider that they may need work to straighten soles, plus all the work you will do to get them sharp and functioning as they should. If they came down to about half that money, I would definitely be tempted.

-- Mike

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