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Forum topic by Jim Jakosh posted 12-12-2016 01:16 AM 623 views 0 times favorited 20 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Jim Jakosh

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12-12-2016 01:16 AM

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This is not a wood topic but it took time away from woodworking and might be useful for someone else.

I put in a new Moen faucet in the kitchen and my wife is not happy with it because the flow rate is half of what it was with the old one. I thought it might be the Shark bite valve I used that was restricting the flow and then LJ Splinterbubba told me that he was told the all the new faucets have a federally mandated low flow rate to conserve water.( I’m still going to use a pot full of water only I have to wait twice as long for it to fill. Great thinking??????? )

I called the plumbing shop in town and asked if they had a flow through aerator to replace this low flow one in the faucet. They said they were all federally conforming to the 2.5 gal/min regulation.
I looked at this green disk ( you might have know they’d make it Green!!!!) with a little o-ring in the center and I plucked it out with my knife and, wallah, I was back to full flow again. Happy wife and back to the shop for more woodworking…................cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!


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lew

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#1 posted 12-12-2016 01:22 AM

Thanks for the tip, Jim!

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Druid

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#2 posted 12-12-2016 01:31 AM

In my area, I’ve seen the same type of restriction in new shower heads (fixed or the hand-held style).

-- John, British Columbia, Canada

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Andy

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#3 posted 12-12-2016 02:19 AM

I had the same problem, same brand faucet too. I had not thought that they could have deliberately made the faucet to restrict flow. I will definately be making that faucet a little less green. Thanks Jim!

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Joe Lyddon

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#4 posted 12-12-2016 02:24 AM

Yep… they just waste time!

If you want a glass of water, or fill a gallon jug, that is what you want to do… You are going to use That much water no matter what the flow is… It is a very poor mandate / law which has not been properly studied!

It is a waste of time; therefore, technically, bad for the economy! LOL

We got some attachments to replace filters, etc. ... I installed them… They are a PAIN IN THE A$$... I’m about to take’em off and put the OLD back on!!

I’m tired of wasting so much time just to get the water I want to use… and have to wait longer to get it!

Maybe, if Trump was aware of this, he might get it stopped (or try to) ... ??

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BobWemm

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#5 posted 12-12-2016 03:04 AM

Pretty much the same thing here in Australia, all the newly built houses have flow restrictors, I took them out of my Daughters rental house.

Bob

-- Bob, Western Australia, The Sun came up this morning, what a great start to the day. Now it's up to me to make it even better. I've cut this piece of wood 4 times and it's still too damn short.

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#6 posted 12-12-2016 03:17 AM

Time is precious Jim. Take those things out. They do have their purpose but we can regulate the flow with the handle if we choose.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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diverlloyd

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#7 posted 12-12-2016 03:48 AM

The inlaws had new counter tops put in and a new faucet. Don’t know the brand but it’s a single handle design with the handle on the side. Flow is decent but the damn thing comes loose after a day or two of use. The builder told
them that they all do it. Pretty annoying having to tighten up the one nut under the sink with it’s special wrench. I have been thinking of putting a ring of silicone around the base to see if that helps. Just figured I would throw that out here since this is a fauset thread.

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#8 posted 12-12-2016 12:46 PM

Nice tip Jim

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Jim Jakosh

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#9 posted 12-12-2016 01:30 PM

I’m glad I could help someone out there!! That sure saved my bacon here at home. Carol was wanting to get a new new faucet!!

Hi John, I don’t mind it in a shower head because you can still get a good spray and there is where it is most needed because some people take a half hour shower! I made a restrictor for mine and you don’t even notice it there.

Hi diverlloyd, our new faucet is a tall one hole type and I was really concerned at it staying tight. It has the handle right on top and I love it. It is a Moen and they have a ring with a slot cut in it so you can slide it one over the tubes coming out and then has 3 5/16” screws in that ring that you tighten and it stays put.
On yours, the turning of the faucet must loosen that nut. I wonder if you can put that kind of ring between the nut and the underside of the counter??

Cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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diverlloyd

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#10 posted 12-12-2016 07:36 PM

Jim theirs looks something like this except it has no base plate.

All it has is the tube that goes through the counter and a single nut with a special wrench and socket to tighten it.

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bonesbr549

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#11 posted 12-12-2016 07:37 PM

All I can think of is Krammer in Seinfield.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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diverlloyd

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#12 posted 12-12-2016 08:09 PM

Yeah it’s kramerish my father in laws has zero mechanical skill so it always fun to go play handyman over there.

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Jim Jakosh

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#13 posted 12-12-2016 08:21 PM

I’ll bet the tube coming through is about 1 1/2”. You might go to a plumbing shop and see if they can adapt one of the U shaped washers to it. They have three bolts in them and you tighten up against a flange and in this case it would be the nut. Not sure it can be adapted, but I know ours holds real well.

Also, maybe they make a large shakeproof style washer that could go on before the nut and would resist loosening??

Cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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corelz125

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#14 posted 12-12-2016 08:41 PM

A lock washer the same as a shake proof washer? Lock washers stay pretty tight once it’s tight

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Jim Jakosh

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#15 posted 12-12-2016 10:18 PM

I see that the external tooth lock washers only go to 1”. That is what I know as a shakeproof lock washer.
http://www.globalindustrial.com/g/fasteners/Washers1/MetricExternal-Tooth-Lock-Was/external-tooth-lock-washers

Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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