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LBH

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11-30-2016 10:41 PM

It’s been over two years since I built my Roubo workbench. Since it was finished I thought about flattening it.

Build some rails and a router sled. I just didn’t want to go there God forbid doing it by hand.

Recently I watched a Christopher Schwarz video on building furniture with hand planes. Nice video. I was watching him use a Lie Nielsen no8. I’ve wanted a 7 for the longest time (I have a Stanley 6) and there it was. Lust. Then he shows how to true an edge in long stock using the tail vise, the side of the no8 and sliding it down the bench like a long shooting board.

I could hardly contain myself. First I have fought snipe on the edges of stock for years. It’s like the flu. You don’t always get it but it seems to show u and you have no idea how you got it. Second I marvel at how my shooting board puts a square side on end grain.

Dilemma. The bench must be flat It makes no sense putting time and money into a sled and rails I’ll never use again.

You guessed it. The first job for my new LN 24” no.8 jointer plane will be flattening the Roubo by hand.

I’ll post as I go along.

-- Disclaimer: Author does not warrant the accuracy of the comments in this post including spell'n and frammer. I'm just another Dufus on a forum.


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bobasaurus

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#1 posted 11-30-2016 10:56 PM

Looks like a difficult flattening job, that plane should be very useful. Your shop looks ridiculously clean compared to mine. Are those beetle kill pine cabinets?

-- Allen, Colorado (Instagram @bobasaurus_woodworking)

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LBH

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#2 posted 11-30-2016 11:29 PM

Yup
Beetle kill

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#3 posted 12-01-2016 01:06 AM

I flattened the top of my bench when I built it with the router/rail technique. Now I flatten it by hand. I think time-wise it’s a wash. And doing by hand is more fun.
Nice looking lie nielson. I’m jealous.
Good luck.

-- I measured once, cut twice, and its still too short...

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#4 posted 12-01-2016 01:26 AM

Very nice looking place to work,I use a Ln foreplane to flatin my bench once a year.So I think your on the right track doing it by hand.

Aj

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#5 posted 12-01-2016 02:02 AM

Congrats on the new plane. Am I the only one that sees faces on the wall? That is some cool grain!

-- Joe | Spartanburg, SC | "To give anything less than your best is to sacrafice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine

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#6 posted 12-01-2016 02:21 AM

Umm now that you said that SuperCubber yes I too see faces! Must have been planned out that way ;) Love the shop, some day I too might have a finished shop with all my dream tools.

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#7 posted 12-01-2016 02:32 AM

I had to flat dress a new bench after a two year settling in period. A power plane was used to remove bulk waste, then finessed with a #6 and finished with a scraper.

http://lumberjocks.com/Texcaster/blog/53473

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#8 posted 12-01-2016 02:42 AM

Very nice shop looks nicer than apartments i have been in.

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LBH

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#9 posted 12-01-2016 02:46 AM



I had to flat dress a new bench after a two year settling in period. A power plane was used to remove bulk waste, then finessed with a #6 and finished with a scraper.

http://lumberjocks.com/Texcaster/blog/53473

- Texcaster

What an Amazing Bench!

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LBH

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#10 posted 12-01-2016 03:16 AM

Since this is the woodworking skill share thread I share a bit about my quests a woodworker. Simple: twelve 90 degree corners on a single stick of stock. Rather than a quest it’s a unicorn hunt.

It leads to stacks of tools, measuring gear, gear that measures gear, reference surfaces, on and on before bringing up sharpening. See Paul Sellers “Four Square”

For the novice, the first thing I say when I pick up a piece for a project is “What do I have??” “Is there one reference surface I can start with?” If not ya make one and the hunt is on.

In this endeavor I now search for reference FLAT. Cause ya need something flat to check the thing you are trying to make flat. I did without for a long time until I saw the Schwarz video on hand planes (See photo) I find this method of putting a square edge on a long piece of stock amazing. But to do it you need reference flat.

Because if the surface the plane runs along isn’t flat and the stock isn’t clamped down flat you aren’t going to get a 90 on the edge. Assuming the wide sides are flat.

When I go in a direction like this I obsess on stuff. What’s the best way? How about this? or wait that’s it! Now I am toying with getting some reference pieces of metal to elevate the stock before I clamp it down. (See Photo)

IMO, I can’t use just the dogs to secure the stock. I need down force in addition to lateral force. My old holdfasts would work but I want to control the force so I’ll probably get a Veritas clamp product.

Lastly, when I made my shooting board I attached strips of Delrin for the plane to run along. I am pondering flexible (non-permanent) ways to do this for the bench top.

-- Disclaimer: Author does not warrant the accuracy of the comments in this post including spell'n and frammer. I'm just another Dufus on a forum.

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#11 posted 12-01-2016 01:21 PM

I have two tools I use constantly when flattening large pieces like a bench or big slab. The first is a set of winding sticks that are 36” long, the second is an 8’ straight edge that has been checked for accuracy.

First I use the straight edge to check for bow in the bench/slab, to find out if I’m dealing with a high center or two high ends. After which I check with the straight edge to locate twist.

A bench is a big surface, so I usually work cross grain until I’m nearly done, then finish with a try plane running long grain followed by a smoother.

A flat object should produce full length shavings.

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LBH

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#12 posted 12-01-2016 04:22 PM


The second is an 8’ straight edge that has been checked for accuracy.

- BHolcombe

How/where does one get something checked for accuracy? I’d also like to have a couple of metal plates, to use as spacers, that have an accurate thickness. Say 5/16”

Thanks for the reply.

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LBH

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#13 posted 12-01-2016 04:35 PM

This looks very interesting. Since I have the number 8 it’s certainly worth a try.

http://www.woodsmith.com/files/issues/183/creating-a-straightedge.pdf

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LBH

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#14 posted 12-01-2016 08:22 PM

Oh Boy
100” of hell. I am seriously out of shape. As such I will be taking my time with this. I also suspect I will regret making the bench a “split top”.

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LBH

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#15 posted 12-01-2016 08:28 PM

This looks real helpful

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