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Rob_s

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11-28-2016 05:04 PM

Please spare me the “buy 220” and “scour craigslist”. The former isn’t in the cards at the moment and the latter has proved fruitless over the last year I’ve been “scouring”, not to mention I prefer new.

Which of these would you choose and why? Or would you choose something else in the category of <$1500, 110v, and new?

“Jet 10” ProShop 1-3/4HP 30 Fence, Cast Iron Wings, with Riving Knife, Model JPS-10TS $1,147.49

“Laguna 10” Fusion 1-3/4HP 36 Fence, Cast Iron Wings, with Riving Knife $1,169.10

“Powermatic Table Saw, 1-3/4HP, 30 Fence with Riving Knife, Model 64B-30 $1,439.99

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Madmark2

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#1 posted 11-28-2016 05:16 PM

Grizzly G0715P has a 110v option for around $800 – with enough to spare from your $1500 budget for an Incra fence and router insert.

M

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#2 posted 11-28-2016 05:21 PM

The guts of the Jet Proshop and Fusion are nearly identical. The Proshop has a nice single piece steel front rail, while the Fusion has a two-piece aluminum rail. For that reason, I’d pick the Proshop over the Fusion, though the full cabinet of the Fusion is nice. The PM Accufence is the beefiest fence of all of these…dunno if it merits a $300 premium over the Jet, but it’s nice.

Fusion:


Proshop:

Worth mention – the Fusion and Baileigh hybrids are very close to being the same saw.

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#3 posted 11-28-2016 05:22 PM

You can’t go wrong with either the Jet or Powermatic. The one Laguna TS I have seen at Rockler, is not as well made as the others.

-- Julian

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Rob_s

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#4 posted 11-28-2016 05:36 PM



Grizzly G0715P has a 110v option for around $800 – with enough to spare from your $1500 budget for an Incra fence and router insert.

M

- Madmark2

this, and others like it, have me a bit wary of that option
https://jayscustomcreations.com/2014/03/grizzly-g0715p-hybrid-table-saw/

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#5 posted 11-28-2016 06:51 PM

Regardless of which one you choose, you will need at least a 20A dedicated circuit – normal 120v outlets are 15 amps and will cause problems trying to push a 1.75hp motor, particularly if there are other devices on the circuit.

The Powermatic actually states it should have a 30A circuit:

If you don’t have a dedicated circuit, then you might as well run a 240V one if you are going to have to run a new one anyway. Just saying.

Cheers,
Brad

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Rob_s

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#6 posted 11-28-2016 06:59 PM

I have three wall-outlet circuits in my shop. One on each wall (4th wall is the rollup doors). They are each 120v, 20amp.

While plugging in to one of these wouldn’t be “dedicated”, I’m the only one in the shop and can only use one tool at a time. At most I’d have the tablesaw and a dust collector running, so plug one in on one wall and another in on the other wall.

the panel actually has to 240v breakers in it now, one of which is a 60 amp and one is a 30 amp, but there isn’t much in the way of viable 240v tablesaws in my budget (would much rather be closer to the $1k than the $1.5k) and adding the outlet just adds to the cost.

At the end of the day I’m not in the shop enough to justify dropping $2k on one tool.

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#7 posted 11-28-2016 07:43 PM

Have you looked at the Delta 36-5100 or the 36-5152? 5100 sells for about $1000, 5152 about $1200. http://www.deltamachinery.com/products/new-5000-series-table-saw/item/36-5100?category_id=113

Personally I’d like to have the Powermatic because of the known quality.

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Rob_s

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#8 posted 11-28-2016 08:04 PM



Have you looked at the Delta 36-5100 or the 36-5152? 5100 sells for about $1000, 5152 about $1200. http://www.deltamachinery.com/products/new-5000-series-table-saw/item/36-5100?category_id=113

- WhyMe

I have a hard time figuring out the different/premium over the 36-725.

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WhyMe

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#9 posted 11-28-2016 08:26 PM


Have you looked at the Delta 36-5100 or the 36-5152? 5100 sells for about $1000, 5152 about $1200. http://www.deltamachinery.com/products/new-5000-series-table-saw/item/36-5100?category_id=113

- WhyMe

I have a hard time figuring out the different/premium over the 36-725.

- Rob_s

The main things are the larger motor, cast iron wings, one piece fence rails and dual site measure indicator on T-fence.

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Woodmaster1

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#10 posted 11-28-2016 08:30 PM

Too bad you don’t live in northeast Indiana. In the last week there has been a powermatic, delta unisaw and jet all on sale for 1500 or less. The powermatic lasted two days and went for 1500.

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Rob_s

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#11 posted 11-28-2016 08:32 PM


Have you looked at the Delta 36-5100 or the 36-5152? 5100 sells for about $1000, 5152 about $1200. http://www.deltamachinery.com/products/new-5000-series-table-saw/item/36-5100?category_id=113

- WhyMe

I have a hard time figuring out the different/premium over the 36-725.

- Rob_s

The main things are the larger motor, cast iron wings, one piece fence rails and dual site measure indicator on T-fence.

- WhyMe

The Home Depot reviews are pretty bad too.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-15-Amp-10-in-Contractor-Saw-with-30-in-Right-Hand-Rip-36-5100/205404774

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#12 posted 11-28-2016 09:07 PM

Maybe I’m alone on this but I’d pop for $1700 and purchase a sawstop. When my old delta contractors saw goes, I see no other alternative in my mind. Hopefully I’ll still have all my fingers when I do it.

My nephew has had one for awhile now and the quality/fit/finish are excellent. And it works as advertised.

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Rob_s

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#13 posted 11-28-2016 09:31 PM



Maybe I m alone on this but I d pop for $1700 and purchase a sawstop. When my old delta contractors saw goes, I see no other alternative in my mind. Hopefully I ll still have all my fingers when I do it.

My nephew has had one for awhile now and the quality/fit/finish are excellent. And it works as advertised.

- Craftsman on the lake

Bridge too far. I considered it, but I can’t justify the added expense relative to the amount of time I have to spend in the shop.

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mike02130

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#14 posted 11-29-2016 10:34 PM

I’m going to say scour for a delta unisaw. So much less anxiety.

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WhyMe

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#15 posted 11-29-2016 11:05 PM

Rob, how much wood working are you planning on doing and what level of projects are you planning? If doing a lot of high end projects and plan on this saw to be a onetime investment then buy the best you can afford. Something that you can get parts and service for years to come.

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