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fiddlebanshee

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07-28-2010 09:38 PM

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We’re moving to a mountain top in Maryland soon, and we have had bear sightings around the house (including paw marks on our freshly poured concrete porch). We also want to start composting but are afraid of attracting bears and creating a bigger problem.

So I know that bears can tear through a lot of things easily. I wondered if there was a really strong and hard wood that bears would have a tough time chewing, tearing through, that we could use to protect the compost pile from their access (basically just building a box that is bolted together with tiny holes for airflow?)

Any ideas? Anyone done this? Should I give it up? Let me hear it!

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#1 posted 07-28-2010 10:04 PM

About the only thing that you are going to be able to make bear resistant is going to have to be made out of steel. I suggest building your compost box and the putting a steel cage around it. You could weld it up out of some old rebar steel or something like that. Maybe some old metal t-posts or sign posts. If you build it out of wood it doesn’t really matter what kind of wood you build it out of, if a bear wants inside, he will get inside.

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#2 posted 07-28-2010 10:16 PM

The cabin I go to every summer has bears around (northern wisconsin) the garbage cans are enclosed in a steel cage, sides and top. It sits on a concrete pad that extends beyond the edge of the cage, to prevent digging under I suppose. The door has locking pins in the floor, top and by the handle. The locking mechanisim has a few steps to it (like lift up, turn then pull).

Mrs. N

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#3 posted 07-28-2010 10:22 PM

Even if you were to build a bear-proof system, the scent will still draw them in. Do you really want the bears hanging around your house? Bird feeders are another thing that draws bears in.

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#4 posted 07-28-2010 10:24 PM

hello fiddlebanshee

you cuold use one of those rotateting composters (or make one simular)
yaae a bear could easely breake it but they are closed
and compost very fast if you remember to rotate the drum every day

if you use the more tradition model
then you always put it in the mittle and turn the top of the compost so it always stay warm
70-80 degreese celcius

and I think if the bear want salat/carots/potatoes/etc. it woooood bee alot easyer
for him to just dig it up from the garden….....LOL

Dennis

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#5 posted 07-28-2010 10:45 PM

Its important to know what kind of bear you are dealing with,

In light of the rising frequency of human – grizzly bear conflicts, the Alaska Department of Fish and Game is advising hikers, hunters, and fishermen to take extra precautions and keep alert of bears while in the field.

We advise that outdoorsmen wear noisy little bells on their clothing so as not to startle bears that aren’t expecting them. We also advise outdoorsmen to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter with a bear. It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear activity.

Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between black bear & grizzly bear excrement. Black bear excrement is smaller and contains lots of berries and squirrel fur. Grizzly bear excrement has little bells in it and smells like pepper.

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#6 posted 07-28-2010 11:01 PM

Thanks for the info PatrolGroup but there are no grizzly bears in Maryland,only black bears. I live in the mountains of colorado and we have all sorts of wild life up here bears,mountain lions, bob cats ,coyotes you name it,and thats why we don’t compost to much risk of having these animals around the house. No matter what you put around it they will come to investigate.

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#7 posted 07-28-2010 11:09 PM

Roper
sorry for my stupidity , but what is bob cats the only one I now is a sled used on an icetrack :-0

Dennis

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#8 posted 07-28-2010 11:26 PM

you know a bob cat or maybe the tech term would be a lynx, small wild mountain cats that eat rabbits and other small furry creatures.

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#9 posted 07-28-2010 11:38 PM

thankĀ“s Roper
I know what a Lynx is :-)

Dennis

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#10 posted 07-28-2010 11:53 PM

lol Dave that bit about the Grizzley bear dropping is hilarious.

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#11 posted 07-29-2010 12:12 AM

Moving to the mountain top? I’m in Garrett Co. 12 to 16/4 red oak with 1/2 in bolts might discourage them. But if your gonna attract them they’ll find something to tear up. We have had contractors that have had them bust the windows out of their vehicles for their lunch bucket, can’t leave bird feeders out while there not hibernating either. Can’t even leave bagged birdseed in your garage. The black devils will tear your garage door off for black oil sunflower seeds. But their not a problem everywhere here, just where their concentrated

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#12 posted 07-29-2010 02:30 AM

Anything made out of heavy metal would do the trick. Wood only slows them down. If they don’t get in the first time, they come back later to finish the job. Here in the South, chainlink fencing is used on one side of three-sided shelters along the Applachian Trail.
Also, check with your state fish and game people as to what they recommend. You can get that info anywhere fishing and hunting licenses are sold.
Lynx- souped up wildcat.

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#13 posted 07-29-2010 02:52 AM

Hey, Roper:

If I understand correctly, SOME of your local bears can DRIVE, too—although … not very well ;-)

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#14 posted 07-29-2010 02:59 AM

I’m with Tony. You don’t want to attract them in the first place. If they can’t get the compost they’ll probably find something else to ravage. Probably the house. Good luck….............

-- mtnwild (Jack), It's not what you see, it's how you see it.

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#15 posted 07-29-2010 06:04 AM

An arrow

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