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Estley

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07-28-2010 08:47 PM

wipe on poly is my favorite finish, mostly cuz it’s hard to screw it up. For the project I’m working on right now I will have to stain several pieces, the tone I like is only available in an oil based stain…..

is it possible to use that stain and then finish it with the wipe on poly? or do I have to go to a brush on oil-based poly?


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#1 posted 07-28-2010 08:53 PM

They have oil based wipe on poly as well, I have used minwax wipe on poly over dansih oil.

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#2 posted 07-28-2010 08:54 PM

Which brand wipe-on poly?
Which brand of oil-based stain?
What kind of wood?
What is the project?

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#3 posted 07-28-2010 08:57 PM

Which brand wipe-on poly?
Minwax

Which brand of oil-based stain?
Cabot

What kind of wood?
a combination of birch ply and maple hardwood

What is the project?
face frame for some cabinets and bookshelves

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#4 posted 07-28-2010 09:00 PM

wipe on poly is oil based unless you are usually using the waterbased product.

regardless, you can use the oil based wipe on poly which should work well with oil based stain although the difference between this one and the waterbased product is that this one will yellow as it ages whereas the waterbased poly usually stays water white..

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#5 posted 07-28-2010 09:09 PM

Minwax what?
They make both oil-based and water-based wipe-on finishes.

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#6 posted 07-28-2010 09:11 PM

oh… for some odd reason I was under the impression that the minwax was a water based only, now I have to check which one I’ve been using. I’ve never actually done any finishing, it’s always been the thing that I avoid.

stupid rookie question/mistake I guess…

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#7 posted 07-28-2010 10:03 PM

Estley, it really does not matter whether you use an oil base or water base poly over the stain. Either is compatible with the stain once you give it time to cure.

I would recommend that you use something to control blotching. Birch plywood and maple are bad about blotching with oil base stains.

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#8 posted 07-28-2010 10:36 PM

the blotching was my next question….. would a conditioner do the trick?

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#9 posted 07-28-2010 11:17 PM

Yes, a conditioner will help with blotching. Charles Neil’s conditioner has been getting some really good press, lately. But I have had success with both commercial conditioners and a 0.5 pound cut of shellac.

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#10 posted 07-29-2010 03:26 AM

ok.. turns out I’ve been using the oil based wipe on poly all along… thanks all for your help!!

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#11 posted 07-30-2010 12:34 PM

Now that you have read the label, move on to the next step and read the instructions. <grin>

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#12 posted 08-01-2010 12:21 AM

I agree with CessnapilotBarry, sealing with shellac is a good idea.

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#13 posted 08-02-2010 10:54 AM

I’ve always applied Water Based Poly over Oil Based Stains (Minwax). Brushed or Wipe On. Some of the items are 5 years old and still maintain their original Sheen & Appearance. Water Based Poly is just my Personal preference I guess.

One reason for the Oil Base Stain and NOT Water Based is that I tried Minwax Water Based Stain ONCE. It seems to me to be more of a Latex Paint then a Stain. i.e.It did a great job of Hiding the Wood Grain! Yes! I did it as per the Instructions on the can and even tried to wipe most of it off when I saw what was happening.

-- Hope Everyone Is Doing Well! .... Best Regards: Rick

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