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Forum topic by BB1 posted 11-26-2016 03:19 AM 577 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-26-2016 03:19 AM

Considering a tablesaw upgrade. I have narrowed down my search to the PM 1000 but am not sure of the 30 or 52 inch Accu-fence system. The cost difference is about $100. I currently have the Bosch 4100 so either will provide a much better working area. Any suggestions or considerations are appreciated as this is a big potential purchase (even with the current sale prices). I’m thinking that if I can fit the larger option (this will likely require reorganization of my somewhat limited shop space), that is the way to go given the surface area. If anyone has the 30” I would be very interested in your experience. The appeal of the 30” is not having to deal with the legs that are found on the 52” version.


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#1 posted 11-26-2016 04:05 AM

You could compromise and go with 40” – http://lumberjocks.com/knotscott/blog/34563

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#2 posted 11-26-2016 04:13 AM

Thanks for that link. I guess if I went with the 30 ” I could always look into a modification as you noted.


You could compromise and go with 40” – http://lumberjocks.com/knotscott/blog/34563

- knotscott


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#3 posted 11-26-2016 06:01 AM

30” is little tight. I had it and very often wished I had longer fence. My current saw is 36” and still sometimes is not enough for what i want to do, but 52” would take too much space. So if you have space go for 52”

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#4 posted 11-26-2016 11:54 AM

I like Scott’s idea of 30” and shift the rail. You ave money and get an increase in area. My first TS had a 32” fence, and in the 10 years or so I used it I needed more capacity maybe 7-8 times. I replaced that saw and got a 52” fence and in the subsequent years I’ve use all that capacity maybe 7-8 times. It’s not needed often but welcome those few times I did. Good luck with your choice!

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#5 posted 11-26-2016 12:22 PM

I have had two cabinet saws. The first a Jet with 52” rails. I did not use the extra length very often. For me being a bit older, I cannot easily put a full sheet of plywood up on it. My current cabinet saw is a SawStop with the shorter rails and it is fine. I use a track saw to break down full sheets of plywood and a miter saw to cut down longer lengths of hardwood.

To make a decision, consider how you will use the saw and the space it takes up.

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#6 posted 11-26-2016 12:57 PM

Thank you for the comments. Still not sure- yesterday when looking at my shop space I was leaning toward the 30 inch. After sleeping on it, I’m shifting toward the 52 if I can arrange my shop to accommodate the length. I don’t want to look back on the purchase and regret going “smaller.” However, I’m sure either option will be great. I’ve used my Bosch for many projects over the past 2 years and it has been a very good first table saw – pretty simple to change blades, etc as I had never used a TS prior to purchasing. Have learned much and now see the value and safety a larger saw can provide.

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#7 posted 11-27-2016 09:25 AM

Also longer fence is more important if you do not have a miter saw

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#8 posted 11-27-2016 10:46 AM

You definitely want to go with the 52” rip compacity model of that saw. If you ever decide to build any cabinets or any other various projects that would require more than a 30” rip compacity then you will be glad you bought this one. Also, if you buy the 30” version, you might find one day that you regret not getting the 52” version and if you try to modify your saw by purchasing new guide rails you will find that it will cost a whole lot more than $100.

Go with the 52” version and you will be happy you did. You never hear anyone say; “man I bought the 52” version of my cabinet saw and wish that I had bought the 30” version”. lol

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#9 posted 11-27-2016 09:09 PM


You definitely want to go with the 52” rip compacity model of that saw. If you ever decide to build any cabinets or any other various projects that would require more than a 30” rip compacity then you will be glad you bought this one. Also, if you buy the 30” version, you might find one day that you regret not getting the 52” version and if you try to modify your saw by purchasing new guide rails you will find that it will cost a whole lot more than $100.

Go with the 52” version and you will be happy you did. You never hear anyone say; “man I bought the 52” version of my cabinet saw and wish that I had bought the 30” version”. lol

- SweetTea

I agree. I have the PM1000 30” because of my small basement shop. I’d have gotten the 52”, but it’s just too big for my shop.

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#10 posted 11-27-2016 09:33 PM

Considering how much you’ll be spending on
the table saw, perhaps consider the 30” fence
to save space and a track saw for cross-cutting
4×8 sheets.

In order to get real accuracy in 48” full-sheet
crosscuts you need a big outfeed table and
an extension table on the left side of the saw
anyway. That’s why cabinet shops bury these
saws in massive tables to get panel saw type
performance. A track saw is more fuss to
set up the cut, but accuracy is more certain
unless you have those support tables.

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#11 posted 11-27-2016 09:50 PM

If you’re anything like me, go with the 52”. You’ll be able to pile a lot more crap on the table. Just like long arms on a treadmill. Holds more clothes!

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#12 posted 11-27-2016 10:23 PM

I like a 52 because the fence also makes a great stop for dadoing, crosscuts, etc… With a proper standoff when through cutting.

Plus, it’s a place to put down the work as parts are picked up, cut and put back down.

Rarely do I cut full sheets, but I sure use the fence past 30” a lot. I crosscut lots of multiple copy parts between 30” and 52” long…

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#13 posted 11-28-2016 01:56 AM

Decided on the 52 inch since I feel I can rearrange the shop to accommodate the space. MUCH thanks to everyone for the comments and suggestions. Had to schedule shipment for later in December when I can be home for the delivery. Hopefully the setup will be doable as this is the biggest item by far for my shop. Again – thanks to everyone for taking the time to respond.

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