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jonnybrophy

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11-26-2016 01:26 AM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw wood woodworking noob tool nut

Hey guys, how ya doin? Thats great:)
Anyway, I’ve been looking for a new table saw to replace my B&D firestorm portable saw(an awful saw), and I would like to hears your opinions.
Heres what I want(in order of importance):
1. A steady and square fence
2. A square miter track and blade
3.capability for all the jigs(so many jigs!!)
4. I would like a hybrid style saw but a jobsite is ok.
5. Would like to have an easy zero clearance plate to make.
6.Cast iron table

I want this saw to replace an edge jointer and a miter saw with real accuracy.

I have a fairly small workshop(1 car garage), but i can always move things around. I dont mind savin’ my pennies for a while, but I would still consider myself a begginer-intermediate woodworker. Right now I am looking at $400 saved. The Ridgid R4512 is my #1 suspect right now.

What do you guys think? Am I asking to much for ~$500? I want something that will last me a pretty long time with not too much maintenance.

-- "If she dont find ya handsome, she better find ya handy"


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Loren

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#1 posted 11-26-2016 01:30 AM

The Ridgid is a good saw. I had my hands on a
Craftsman equivalent for a few weeks awhile back
and I was really impressed at the value in it. The
plastic motor cover was flimsy and other minor gripes
but in terms of the mechanical operation and metal
working parts it was a fine saw.

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jonnybrophy

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#2 posted 11-26-2016 01:51 AM

thanks loren!

Ive seen many good things about this saw, but I’ve also heard a few (pretty)bad things. Such as the aluminum fence tracks sagging, and the zero clearance inserts are very thin and hard to make.
Ive also looked at this saw: Grizzlygo771

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WhyMe

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#3 posted 11-26-2016 01:58 AM

Have you looked at the Delta 36-725 that Lowe’s sells? Good table saw for $599.

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#4 posted 11-26-2016 02:03 AM

I haven’t seen that yet, thanks!
It seems solid, do you have any expirence with it?

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#5 posted 11-26-2016 02:20 AM

Are we to suddenly forget all the Ridgid 4512 or Craftsman 21833 boat anchors manufactured for the last 9 years that can not keep the blade aligned with the miter slot when you change the cutting height. I own one of the pieces of shit and I will regret that purchase as long as I live. A clear defective design and none of the saws were ever corrected under the worthless LSA (lifetime service agreement) some poor suckers thought was a warranty. I will never buy another Ridgid woodworking tool because of this.

Also, its damn near impossible to make a ZCI for this piece of junk. It has to be less than 1/8” thick to sit in the tiny recess inn the table top.

But the top is cast iron and the motor is strong. Many people hate the split rail for the fence but that never was a problem for me. Never know what angle the blade is going to be cutting so the fence is useless anyway. Might as well freehand everything.

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jonnybrophy

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#6 posted 11-26-2016 02:23 AM

Thanks crank50
That sounds exactly what i dont want! DO you have a reccomendation? id take accuracy and reliability vs power any day.

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#7 posted 11-26-2016 02:39 AM



Thanks crank50
That sounds exactly what i dont want! DO you have a reccomendation? id take accuracy and reliability vs power any day.

- jonnybrophy


I think the Delta mentioned earlier, and sold at Lowes is a nice looking saw and seems to be a better design, but after getting burned on one well known brand name mass market saw that turned out to be a rip off, I am reluctant to think this one would be any better.

My next saw will be a SawStop, if I hit the lottery, other wise I’ll probably go for a Grizzly. I have seen mostly good reports of their customer service and in my opinion their saws are built more for woodworkers than for hobby shops.

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jonnybrophy

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#8 posted 11-26-2016 02:41 AM

Thanks crank50
That sounds exactly what i dont want! DO you have a reccomendation? id take accuracy and reliability vs power any day.

- jonnybrophy

I think the Delta mentioned earlier, and sold at Lowes is a nice looking saw and seems to be a better design, but after getting burned on one well known brand name mass market saw that turned out to be a rip off, I am reluctant to think this one would be any better.

My next saw will be a SawStop, if I hit the lottery, other wise I ll probably go for a Grizzly. I have seen mostly good reports of their customer service and in my opinion their saws are built more for woodworkers than for hobby shops.

- Crank50

Have you looked at this?

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WhyMe

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#9 posted 11-26-2016 02:58 AM


I haven t seen that yet, thanks!
It seems solid, do you have any expirence with it?

- jonnybrophy


Yes, I have the Delta and I’m very pleased with it. Do a search for 36-725 on Lumberjocks and you’ll find plenty to read.

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#10 posted 11-26-2016 01:10 PM

I think the Delta has the better fence, and a better track record than the R4512. If you’re even remotely considering a stationary saw, I’d skip the portables.

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#11 posted 11-26-2016 02:35 PM

I’ll throw my $.02 in.

Stay away from “homeowner” type saws you see at Lowes and HD. To put more politely, they are close to a POS than a quality machine that you will be using for 10 years. That being said, if you’re building boxes and birdhouses it may be all you need.

I think any TS need a 2HP -induction-motor minimum if you want it to last a while.

The reality is, you’re not gonna get much saw for $400 so I suggest you start scanning Craigslist for a used older model Delta/Rockwell.

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#12 posted 11-26-2016 03:13 PM

Great advice given so far. I have had great luck with Grizzly and the upgrade shop fox fence is well worth the $$.

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#13 posted 11-26-2016 03:23 PM



Are we to suddenly forget all the Ridgid 4512 or Craftsman 21833 boat anchors manufactured for the last 9 years that can not keep the blade aligned with the miter slot when you change the cutting height. I own one of the pieces of shit and I will regret that purchase as long as I live. A clear defective design and none of the saws were ever corrected under the worthless LSA (lifetime service agreement) some poor suckers thought was a warranty. I will never buy another Ridgid woodworking tool because of this.

Also, its damn near impossible to make a ZCI for this piece of junk. It has to be less than 1/8” thick to sit in the tiny recess inn the table top.

But the top is cast iron and the motor is strong. Many people hate the split rail for the fence but that never was a problem for me. Never know what angle the blade is going to be cutting so the fence is useless anyway. Might as well freehand everything.

- Crank50

When did you buy yours?

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Lazyman

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#14 posted 11-26-2016 03:25 PM

+1 on the Delta 36-725 from Lowes. I have had it for a little over 2 years with no problems. The motor is plenty strong for the average weekend woodworker. Mine came well tuned so I didn’t have to make any adjustments to make blade parallel to the miter slot. It has a built in mobile base so you don’t have to make or buy one. Dust collection works okay with a built in shop vac port. You still get saw dust below it and on the table but it is definitely better than no dust collection as my old Delta contractor saw had. I bought a canvas dust bag from Harbor freight to catch most of the stuff that falls through. The only real negative is the split rail fence design. It took some fiddling to get it setup properly but hasn’t moved since I got it setup. Mine did come with a riving knife that wasn’t flat but an email to their customer support and they sent me a new one within a couple of days.

Check out the reviews written by thetinman here on LJ for an excellent overview as well as some tips for troubleshooting setup.

Do I wish that I had purchased a nicer cabinet saw? Sure, but I use mine quite a bit and haven’t found a reason to replace it yet.

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jonnybrophy

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#15 posted 11-26-2016 03:38 PM

Thanks guys, I really appreciate your feedback!
only reason I am looking at spending around 500 is to leave room in my wallet for a planer possibly. Do you think under 1000 would be better? Ive been woodworking for around a year and i love it, i just want to upgrade in means of accuracy versatility.
This is my current saw
It is rather dreadful to use and im fairly certain the blade arbor wobbles.
I looked at the dewalt jobsite series’s and they are rather intruiging.
Im just tryin to set up shop and i dont make much money, i have an allowance of 200 a month to save or spend.
what do you suggest?

-- "If she dont find ya handsome, she better find ya handy"

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