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Forum topic by Peteyb posted 11-25-2016 05:52 AM 1341 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Peteyb

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11-25-2016 05:52 AM

Wanting a new cyclone dust collector. I have narrowed it down a Laguna Dust Collector but don’t know if I should go with 1.5 or 2 HP. I currently have a Jet 1.5 HP Vortx Dust Collector. I thought it works ok but would like an easier emptying Dust chips and look at possible future use.

I currently have a 3 HP Saw Stop, router table, and Miter Saw. Possible future upgrades are 8” Jointer, 15” Planer, and Drum Sander.

Power does not mater as I have plenty of room to add. Let me know what your thoughts are.

Thank you,

Pete


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Redoak49

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#1 posted 11-25-2016 12:38 PM

I am always for more power in a dust collector and I would go for a 3 hp.

Just for your info, I have a 5 hp Super Dust Gorilla.

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#2 posted 11-25-2016 05:04 PM

I would say depends on how you plan on using it. If you re in close proximity of the tools and runs not long and depending on dyour gating method 1.5 could do it just fine. But if you will have mulitple tools and go as big as you can afford.

I currently have a 2hp unit (not laguna) and longer runs and connected to 5 tools and a run thats a sweep with 4” flex ducting.

I’ll be upgrading to a 5ph unit in my next shop with 6” lines. I have to say I’ve liked the units I’ve seen in person at woodcraft from laguna.

Go as big as you can afford The words “I have too big a DC” have never been spoken!

Good luck and post a review of what ever you buy we all like new toys even if they are someone elses :)

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#3 posted 11-25-2016 05:57 PM

Peteyb,

My thinking is the more air moved at the tool the cleaner the shop can be and the better the tools will perform. The drum sander, planer, and perhaps to a lesser extent, the 8” jointer will require a lot of suction to effectively remove dust and chips, especially when operating the machines near their full capacity.

Since a large impeller has the potential to move more air and a large impeller requires a larger motor, I went with a dust collector that offered the largest impeller and driving motor I could afford. A year ago and finally having saved sufficient funds, I bit the bullet and upgraded to a 16” impeller driven by a 5 hp motor from ClearVue. The only regret came when I wrote the check. But that financial wound has healed and I benefit from better tool performance and a cleaner shop every day.

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Redoak49

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#4 posted 11-25-2016 06:32 PM

I think that with the drum sander you need a 3 hp.

The drum sander creates a lot of fine dust. The Laguna dust collectors are very nice but are a shorter cone cyclone and not known for the best separation. This could be an issue and think that you should give this some more thought.

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JBrow

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#5 posted 11-26-2016 03:35 PM

Peteyb,

I tend to agree with Redoak49, although I am short of proof. I too believe a long tapered cone removes a greater percentage of smaller particles than the shorter cyclone bodies found on JDS, Baileigh, and Laguna. However, the filters on these short cone dust collectors have some form of integrated filter cleaning device. With a turn of the crack a flapper rubs against the inside of the filter and knocks off loosely adhering dust. I suspect the downside to this form of filter cleaning is that the filter will require replacing due to abrasion caused by the rubbing action. But then I do not know whether the filter would have to be replaced in 1 year or in 10 years.

Having re-read your post, I saw that for now you are content with the Jet Vortex but are frustrated by the time and inconvenience associated with emptying the lower debris collection bag. If this is correct, it seems to me you could modify the Jet dust collector to make emptying the debris easier and just keep the Jet until you upgrade to tools that benefit from better dust collection.

I find that a sealed box in which a dust collection barrel sets makes emptying the chips and dust far easier and much, much quicker. The 5-sided box features a door (the 6th side) that seals tight when locked closed. A fiber drum that sets inside the box is the receptacle that collects the chips and dust. A large hole cut into the top of the box would allow the center vortex cone-containing housing to set on top of the box allowing separated debris to be directed into the barrel. The vortex housing would have to be sealed to the box to prevent leaks. A bicycle inner tube gasket fastened around the rim of the fiber drum would seal the top of the fiber drum against the inside top of the box and prevent debris from escaping the drum and settling in the box. Felt weather stripping secured to the door along with window sash locks that pull the door tightly closed keep the door sealed. I also attached a handle to my fiber drum so the drum can be easily pulled from the box. A view port and interior lighting could be added to monitor the level of debris in the drum, although simply opening the door and pulling the drum out a bit is an easy enough way to check the chip level in the barrel. If this modification interests you, I can post a pic or two.

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JCantin

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#6 posted 11-28-2016 03:29 PM

While looking at the 1.5 hp Laguna at Woodcraft I was upsold on the 2hp. Didn’t realize til I got it home that it was wired for 220v. Not a big deal since I was leaning towards installing a 220 sub panel anyway. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of that.

I use the 2hp on my SawStop PCS, 8” Delta jointer, and router table. Very happy with the performance.

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JCantin

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#7 posted 11-28-2016 03:29 PM

While looking at the 1.5 hp Laguna at Woodcraft I was upsold on the 2hp. Didn’t realize til I got it home that it was wired for 220v. Not a big deal since I was leaning towards installing a 220 sub panel anyway. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of that.

I use the 2hp on my SawStop PCS, 8” Delta jointer, and router table. Very happy with the performance.

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Matt

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#8 posted 11-28-2016 03:52 PM

I have the 1.5HP Laguna and it sucks. (In a good way.) The separation is good (Subjective number warning…....) >97% of the dust ends up in the bin and the filter does a good job. Emptying it easy and why I “upgraded” from a Modified leaky HF with a Wynn filter unit.

I too was attempted to be upsold at woodcraft when I purchased it for the 220v 2HP model and if I HAD access to easy 220 (I’ll be moving and don’t want to invest/modify the existing house 200amp panel that is already full) I would have gone with the bigger option.

Based on your OP – I’d suggest going for the 2HP or even bigger if your budget can handle it. Once I move (next summer we hope) and have my dedicated shop, I’ll likely sell my Laguna (or find another use for it….. ) and pick up a 3+ hp cyclone DC.

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Peteyb

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#9 posted 11-29-2016 01:45 AM

So I have purchased the 2HP Laguna. While there they asked about the Jet. I said it looked like the old Laguna. They agreed and thought the new Laguna is even better. The said it will be a couple of weeks before it comes in.

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