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Steve

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11-22-2016 04:00 AM

Ordered a new lathe which should arrive sometime in February, now I need to find a set of good set of turning tools for a beginner. I have been looking at the Carter and Son Toolworks but have not talked to anyone who has used them, any suggestions?


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GR8HUNTER

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#1 posted 11-22-2016 04:07 AM

I have the starter set from sorby ….. I think its a 6 piece

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JADobson

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#2 posted 11-22-2016 04:44 AM

For a beginner I don’t think you can go wrong with Lee Valley’s economy tools. They are solid, have good steel, and take a good edge. They are cheap enough that you won’t feel bad trying new grinds and maybe messing something up. I got mine a few years ago and have had absolutely no complaints. Here’s a link: http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=56745&cat=1,330,56745.

By the way, that is a really nice lathe. I can only dream.

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yvrdennis

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#3 posted 11-23-2016 04:33 PM

Since you’ve bought a 24/36 I’m guessing you have a pretty decent budget for this hobby. Great lathe by the way. I’ve been turning on mine for about 10 years.

If you have the money to spend I’d suggest going with some high quality gouges right from the start. My favourites are Thompson tools. They’re more expensive, but the steel is great. Rather than buying a set from the outset I’d suggest buying individual tools for the type of turning you’re interested in. I am a semi-pro production turner. I make mainly pepper mills, rolling pins and bowls, so I do a mix of spindle and bowl turning. My go to tools are:

Spindle roughing gouge
1/2” detail gouge
skew chisel

I also own some smaller spindle gouges that I use for detailed work like finials, but I don’t do very much of that sort of thing.

Two 5/8” bowl gouges, one with a regular grind and one with a very blunt grind for the bottom of deep bowls
1/2” bowl gouge for fine finishing cuts.

I’d resist the urge to buy every tool under the sun. I went through a phase where I bought dozens of tools that were recommended by other turners or by demonstrators at our guild. I have spent the last year selling most of that stuff off and it is amazing how much room I have in my shop now. I just wish I had the money I spent on them back.

I’d also suggest a sharpening jig. This can give you a more consistent grind. I use the Oneway jig.

Just my $0.02 as there are many ways to skin a cat.

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Lazyman

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#4 posted 11-23-2016 06:04 PM

You didn’t say want kind of turning you are planning to do. That affects what kind of chisels you should buy. Benjamin’s Best makes a good beginner set that is good for general purpose use I ordered a set last year and they were even sharp enough to use right out of the box.

As mentioned above, you will want to research sharpening techniques and find a good system or jig to sharpen the various types of chisels you plan to use. It is not uncommon to need to sharpen a bowl gouge multiple time while turning a single bowl. For example, turning a 7” diameter bowl blank turning at 1000 RPM means that you are cutting about 1/3 mile of wood per minute and to get a smooth surface you need sharp tools.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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Morpheus51

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#5 posted 11-23-2016 07:45 PM

For a sharpening system I would recommend the Sorby Pro Edge. I have a belt sharpening system that is not made anymore and it does a fantastic job keeping the edge razor sharp. I purchased a Carter and Son’s handle and a 3/8” bowl gouge and it is a quality tool. If I were you I would purchase a quality set of tools. With the purchase of a Oneway 2436 you are in this hobby bigtime. If I purchase anymore tools I will buy from Carter and Son. I have a Sorby 16” handle that I like. Sorby sizes their tool by the flute size and not the diameter of the tool. Carter tools will fit in the Sorby handle with no problem. D way tools are sized different and won’t fit the Sorby handle. When and if you want to start hollowing big stuff, look into Clark Hollowing tools and steady rest. This stuff is major industrial quality, but your lathe can handle it. I know from experience. You are probably going to want a band saw in the future and I can recommend the Rikon 351 14”. It is a 3hp and it has served me well preparing logs for turning. I have purchase all my big stuff from Performance Tool Center. They will work with you some on the price. Jet and Powermatic have a sale starting Friday and going for 4 days. If you need anything else look into this sale. I just ordered a Jet 15” Helical Head planer. I got the best deal from Performance Tool Center. Good luck!!

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Aj2

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#6 posted 11-23-2016 08:23 PM

You will need a parting tool everyone needs a parting tool.
I also second the comments about buying pro turning tools.
I use a tormek to sharpen my turning tools carving tools plane blades, jointer knives and sometimes chisels.
Thats a nice lathe.

Aj

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yvrdennis

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#7 posted 11-23-2016 09:20 PM



You will need a parting tool everyone needs a parting tool.
I also second the comments about buying pro turning tools.
I use a tormek to sharpen my turning tools carving tools plane blades, jointer knives and sometimes chisels.
Thats a nice lathe.

Aj

- Aj2

Oops, I forgot the parting tool. You definitely need one of those.

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Randy Woodworker

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#8 posted 11-23-2016 09:30 PM

I have the 1/2” Lee Valley beginner bowl gouge. I don’t turn a lot of bowls, but it seems to work just fine.
I also have some P&N tools from Australia. They are great and you get to turn your own handles. Of course you will need at least one handled tool to be able to make your handles!
I love the P&N Supa gouge. I can use it as a roughing gouge or a large bowl gouge. Very versatile.

Starting out, if you can’t find some used tools, get the Lee Valley set. Good value.

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ed13

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#9 posted 11-23-2016 10:15 PM

I just finished a turning class with Ernie Conover in which we did spindle and faceplate turning. His tool list may help you. The class was excellent. Here’s a link to the tool list.

http://www.conoverworkshops.com/ww_Woodturning_Tools_Techniques_Tool_List.html

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Steve

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#10 posted 11-24-2016 01:54 AM

Thanks for the info guys, I have already ordered a sharpening system, a TormekT-8 and the Tormek wood turners kit.
Can’t wait to get it all together and give it a try.

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moke

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#11 posted 11-25-2016 06:29 PM

I love this website,
http://www.thewoodturningstore.com/
Hurricane tools are good and won’t break the bank, I have a lot of them. A friend has the bigger Chuck and it is 50 to 60% of a one way and in lot of ways I like it better.
Just my .02
Mike

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Richard H

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#12 posted 11-25-2016 06:49 PM

I really like my Sorby tools. I bought one or two a year when I could get them 25% off and have a pretty decent set now. I like the mass of the tools and the length of the handles make them easy to tuck against your body for control on heavier cuts. Good quality HSS tools should mostly all behave the same with the main difference being the makeup of the handles and how much mass is in the steel but the price is going to be similar as well and if you see tools significantly cheaper than average there is a reason for it. As I said I like long handles for most of my turning tools and thick shanks to help absorb the shocks as well as balance the tool to the longer handle but that’s me.

My first set of tools where from harbor freight and also claim to be HSS. They cost less than some of my single Sorby tools did weight half as much in your hands and the handles are much shorter and thiner. They also need to be touched up much more often. They are not horrible tools but after using higher quality ones I would never go back.

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