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becikeja

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11-19-2016 08:19 PM

I am deciding between 2 saws. Either the Jet JPS-10TS or the Powermatic PM1000.
Both are 1-3/4 HP with cast Iron tables
The Jet indicates a 7A draw at 230V, The Powermatic indicates a 10A draw at 230V so I have to assume it has a more powerful motor. The rest of the features seem comparable to me, but not sure what I else should focus on.

I am just a weekend hobbyist, but it is time to upgrade from my Porter Cable benchtop table saw. I don’t think I can go wrong with either, but I can’t decide if the Powermatic is really worth an additional $600. With the difference I can buy some good blades and a mobile base so I am leaning toward the Jet, but do not want to be disappointed in a few years.

Thoughts???

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#1 posted 11-19-2016 08:32 PM

Both are good saws, but if you have 220v available, why limit yourself to 1-3/4hp saws? The Grizzly G1023RL and G0690 are in that price range, and are both industrial cabinet saws vs hybrid saws….much heavier duty underpinnings and have nearly twice the power.

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#2 posted 11-19-2016 09:03 PM

I have and use Laguna products. Good products and customer support.
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/6082 on it and look for Black Friday sales- 10% and $75 shipping

-- Desert_Woodworker

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#3 posted 11-20-2016 12:07 AM

I love my PM1000. Just the right size for my basement shop.

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#4 posted 11-20-2016 01:42 AM

Chuck- It is a beauty but it is a step up to a 3hp – I would go the Laguna. Currently I use a PowerMatic http://www.powermatic.com/us/en/p/64b-1-75-hp-115-230v-30-fence-with-riving-knife/1791229K – it cost $1,600 vs Laguna for $1,200 Yes the older Power Matics are a very good saw but if I would want to replace my table saw- Laguna.
I currently use Laguna CNC and dust collection-

-- Desert_Woodworker

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#5 posted 11-20-2016 02:41 AM



Chuck- It is a beauty but it is a step up to a 3hp – I would go the Laguna. Currently I use a PowerMatic http://www.powermatic.com/us/en/p/64b-1-75-hp-115-230v-30-fence-with-riving-knife/1791229K – it cost $1,600 vs Laguna for $1,200 Yes the older Power Matics are a very good saw but if I would want to replace my table saw- Laguna.
I currently use Laguna CNC and dust collection-

- Desert_Woodworker

Yeah, a 3hp would be really nice, but this suits my space better. Wish I had more room. :/

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#6 posted 11-20-2016 04:39 AM

I am in the same dilemma, Powermatic, Jet or Laguna. I think with the Rockler 10% off and free shipping the Powermatic will be my choice

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#7 posted 11-20-2016 09:42 AM

I don’t think you will be disappointed with either saw. I have owned a jet ts for 12 years and it does the job. However, “The Gold Standard” would be nIce to have. Haha, good luck with that decision! In my opinion your a winner either way. Jet, money saved equals more tools. PM, no more “what if’s

Have fun and be safe!

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becikeja

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#8 posted 11-20-2016 01:02 PM

Since I do have 230V available I have considered increasing the HP, but I just don’t need it. It would be overkill for my needs. I did consider the Laguna Table Saw but have concerns. It has some great reviews and seems to be well built, the fact that it comes with the mobile base and metal cranks was a plus. But their saw line seems limited. My perception is Laguna is focusing on CNC’s and dust collection for their business and their saw line is a buy-out and not well supported. This could be an entirely wrong assessment on Laguna, just my opinion from what I have read. I need to research this more and see if I need to reconsider.

Woodchuck2010 – Great looking set up on the PM. Why have you mounted the T-track on the saw fence? Just curious as to what you use it for.

-- Don't outsmart your common sense

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#9 posted 11-20-2016 01:04 PM

There was a review of the 120V cabinet saws in FWW Tools and Shops issue (winter, 2016). May still be on the newstands. Anyway, they reviewed the PM 1000 (but not the Jet) and compared it to the Sawstop PCS, the Lugana Fusion, the Grizzly G0715P, the Baileigh TS1044H, and the GI 50-200R. A lot of folks don’t like magazine tool reviews for different reasons, but I always find them useful. You don’t get to see side by side comparisons in person (usually) and the reviews always have some useful information. But in this one, they rated the PM 1000 second only to the PCS…and then only because the PCS had the safety stuff. If that issue isn’t available, I may still have mine and would send it to you if you want to send me a mailing address.

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#10 posted 11-20-2016 01:08 PM

I just bought a Grizzly G1023RL because powermatic takes over a month and half to get and I am very impressed with the Griz.

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#11 posted 11-20-2016 03:22 PM

Woodchuck2010 – Great looking set up on the PM. Why have you mounted the T-track on the saw fence? Just curious as to what you use it for.

- becikeja

I put the machined aluminum fence on because it is dead flat. The stock Delrin insert was ok, but there are slight depressions where it attaches to the fence. Most boards will ride right over them, but I wanted it flat. The extra length gives me much better feed in and support for bigger panels also. It works extremely well! It adds 10lbs of weight to the fence, but it’s very solid. I can add jigs to it very easily too.

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#12 posted 11-20-2016 03:27 PM



I am in the same dilemma, Powermatic, Jet or Laguna. I think with the Rockler 10% off and free shipping the Powermatic will be my choice

- Davevand

I bought mine through Southertools.com They have the free shipping, free lift gate service and no tax!

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#13 posted 11-20-2016 04:28 PM

FWIW, the Jet Proshop, Laguna Fusion, and Baileigh TS1044H are very similar under the hood. (I’m pretty sure the Laguna and Baileigh are nearly identical). All offer the lighter duty cabinet mounted trunnion brackets that mount to the center strut of the cabinet….easier to reach and adjust than table mounted trunnions for sure, but not to be confused with the much beefier box style trunnion brackets that mount to the corners of the industrial style cabinet saws. The Laguna and Baleigh obviously offer a full enclosure, but the Jet offers a single piece steel front rail compared to a two-piece aluminum front rail on the Fusion and TS1044H. That may not be a deal breaker, but is something I’d definitely want to know going in, as it’s really only a positive for the manufacturer.

It’s also worth noting that the 3hp cabinet saws don’t take up any more space than a typical hybrid saw. Only when you increase the size of the rip capacity of the fence does the footprint increase.

Fusion/Baleigh fence rail:

Hybrid with “cabinet mounted” trunnions:

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Industrial cabinet saw:

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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becikeja

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#14 posted 11-20-2016 08:03 PM



There was a review of the 120V cabinet saws in FWW Tools and Shops issue (winter, 2016). May still be on the newstands. Anyway, they reviewed the PM 1000 (but not the Jet) and compared it to the Sawstop PCS, the Lugana Fusion, the Grizzly G0715P, the Baileigh TS1044H, and the GI 50-200R. A lot of folks don t like magazine tool reviews for different reasons, but I always find them useful. You don t get to see side by side comparisons in person (usually) and the reviews always have some useful information. But in this one, they rated the PM 1000 second only to the PCS…and then only because the PCS had the safety stuff. If that issue isn t available, I may still have mine and would send it to you if you want to send me a mailing address.

- Fred Hargis

Fred, Thanks for the offer, and yes I have read the FWW review.

-- Don't outsmart your common sense

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#15 posted 11-20-2016 08:35 PM

In my case, the PM2000 not only has a bigger footprint for the base, but it has a larger cast iron table too. It also weighs in at 200lbs more. I’d love that saw, but it’s too big and heavy for my shop. I only have 110v which limits me also.

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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