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old time wire frets for dulcimer (or anything fretted)

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JonJ

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319 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: tip dulcimer luthier frets cheap traditional

I often wondered how luthiers of old found their fret wire…I mean, even now it’s not something you can usually hop down to the corner market and pick up, so how did they build those dulcimers in the backwoods where you had to scratch build just about all of it? Real fret wire has sort of a capital “T” cross section…you cut a slot in the neck and pound the base into the groove till all you see is the top of the wire. While I’m sure they have had this style of fret since 1800’s and maybe before, I bet it was not easy to get, or cheap.

I was lucky enough to get to see a dulcimer that dated back to the late 1800’s. There is a world of difference between speculation as to how they did something back then, vs. seeing the real deal. Then you know FOR A FACT how it was done.

It was so simple, I coudn’t belive it! maybe there are some luthiers here that, this is old stuff to them, but I had never heard of it. You take common piece of bailing or any other type of wire and bend it in sort of a staple shape. You drill small holes at each side of the neck where the fret goes and press it in…how easy is that! to make it more secure, you could glue it, or if you really wanted to get carried away, cut a recess under the neck to crimp the ends or twist together. Depending on the diameter of the wire, your nut and bridge groove depth would have to be cut accordingly. I suppose unless you used a hardened wire, it may wear grooves a little quicker, but this is such a cool trick and a money saver too, I have to share it. Not to mention, if you wanted to make a REALLY traditional instrument with carved wooden tuning pegs, these frets would be perfect.

This is a sketch I drew and sent to a friend who also builds dulcimers. Hope it makes sense.
There is also the bit on there about hourglass vs. teardrop body styles. I know I mentioned that in a seperate post, but it’s already on the drawing so we’ll just leave it there in case someone missed it!

I’ll try to post actual pix of these frets being installed someday…

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-- Jon

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rikkor

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318 days ago

Neat! One (wannabe) luthier who appreciates the history lesson.

-- Maplewood, MN

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GaryK

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318 days ago

Very cool! I never thought of that.

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

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MsDebbieP

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318 days ago

fascinating.
They were brilliant, weren’t they? !

-- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

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roy

66 posts in 322 days


318 days ago

i heard people use to use field fence wire for their frets
love the article. i’ll have to build me a dulcimer for my next project

-- tn hillbilly

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JohnBartley

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318 days ago

Very nice!! The information is fascinating – I love seeing how work was done historically. Thank you for posting this page.

cheers eh?

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Mario

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318 days ago

That is really cool. Sometimes the easiest works the best. Thanks for the info.

-- Hope Never fails

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Thos. Angle

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318 days ago

Great info for the luthiers in the bunch. I like to play but don’t have to time to build or play much either. Danged shame, really.

-- Thos. Angle, Owyhee Design, Oregon

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oicurn2it2

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317 days ago

youre making me wanna finish that banjo i started

-- "when you think youre going to slow, slow down just a little bit more" .... Pop's

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dennis mitchell

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317 days ago

State of the art (1800’s) Technology.

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JonJ

63 posts in 368 days


317 days ago

youre making me wanna finish that banjo i started

Do it! I think something is brewing…

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-- Jon

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