# Tool Tote in by Hand & Eye

 Forum topic by JADobson posted 11-09-2016 06:28 PM 707 views 0 times favorited 4 replies
 JADobson1287 posts in 2312 days 11-09-2016 06:28 PM Topic tags/keywords: by hand eye ratios Hi everyone,I’m looking at the tool tote in By Hand & Eye and see that the end boards are 1 module wide by 1 2/3 modules high. Tolpin and Walker describe this as being a ratio of 4:7. That doesn’t seem right to me though wouldn’t it be 3:5? The width is 3/3s and the height is 5/3s. Am I missing something here? -- No craft is very far from the line beyond which is magic. -- Lord Dunsany — Instagram @grailwoodworks

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 bondogaposis5091 posts in 2553 days #1 posted 11-09-2016 07:52 PM It is fairly close. 4/7 = .57 Where as 1/ 1.66= .60. What do expect from a book called By Hand and By Eye ? -- Bondo Gaposis bandit57121772 posts in 2885 days #2 posted 11-09-2016 07:57 PM Meh… Width ~ 12”, length 32” overall….. -- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use jdmaher439 posts in 2781 days #3 posted 11-09-2016 07:58 PM On pg. 163, last sentence of text (continued on next page): “In this case the height is broken into a major and minor with the lower section four parts and the upper section three parts. The ratio of the end panel is therefore 4:7.” They just SAID (at the start of the very same paragraph) that the overall height of the tote ends is 1 and 2/3 modules (hand spans). THEN, they switch to 1 and 3/4? Without explanation, they changed their units from thirds to quarters! I, too, find these descriptions confusing. For me, it’s that they lack consistency is both terminology and units. Me, I ain’t facile enough to switch betwixt, between and among these “simple ratios”. Y’all just confuse me. I get the gist of what they are saying, but their lack of consistency and missing explanations of unit conversions make their work unintelligible. That said, 3/5 = 0.6 and 4/7 =~ 0.57, so it’s all pretty close. Pleasing designs and good concepts, but I can’t follow their explanations. -- Jim Maher, Illinois JADobson1287 posts in 2312 days #4 posted 11-11-2016 03:42 AM Thanks Jim. Good to know I’m not crazy. I know they are close but I was trying to follow their train of thought and it just wasn’t coming together for me. Must have stared at the page for 20 minutes. :) Great book despite the typo. -- No craft is very far from the line beyond which is magic. -- Lord Dunsany — Instagram @grailwoodworks