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sawedoff

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11-06-2016 02:05 AM

Who all has done this? My DC is pretty dang loud. Was thinking about possible making a DC cabinet to control noise. Concerns are about getting the motor hot and allowing it to breath

-- still wet behind the ears.....


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Woodknack

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#1 posted 11-06-2016 02:30 AM

Heisz has a couple videos on it but I don’t remember if it helped with noise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6kBkrE_4us

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#2 posted 11-06-2016 03:06 AM

I have my d.c. setting in a seperate room….The room is sound proofed with a steel door, and sound proofing on the walls, kind of like a recording studio..

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#3 posted 11-06-2016 03:21 AM

Mine is on otherside of wall in shop. Designed the extension to the shop to allow for it. Best decision I made. I did use soundproofing insulation I got out of a refurb of a local school music room.

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#4 posted 11-06-2016 11:38 AM

I’m always puzzled a little by this question. When my DC is running so is another power tool, so I have to wear ear protection anyway. What’s gained with the closet (asking out of ignorance)?

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#5 posted 11-06-2016 12:51 PM

I agree with Fred. My planer and jointer are much louder than the DC.

Maybe some DC’s are very loud?

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#6 posted 11-06-2016 01:16 PM

I use my stroke sander a lot. It’s pretty quiet. But, I def see your point

-- still wet behind the ears.....

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#7 posted 11-06-2016 01:20 PM

I too always use ear protection as the Navy took a lot of my hearing back in the 50’s. I don’t want to lose any more, not even a little less than I have now. Just sayin…

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#8 posted 11-06-2016 01:36 PM

I have a separate room adjoining my workshop that holds my air compressor and DC. I run some of my tools without hearing protection using the DC. Like most everyone else I use protection with loud tools; planer, ts, etc. The air compressor is loud and having that separation helps.
The room does need to be large enough to allow good air circulation for the motors.

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#9 posted 11-06-2016 01:48 PM

dude …just crank up your tunes loader ….... LMAO

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#10 posted 11-06-2016 03:15 PM

sawedoff,

I enclosed the CV1800 cyclone dust collector in a free standing enclosure. I did this for three reasons. The first reason is to make emptying the dust bin easier. The second was noise abatement. My 2 car garage workshop shares a wall with the living room where the wife watches TV while I am woodworking. I figured less noise from the shop entering the living room would make mine a happier life. The third reason was portability. I wanted the ability to move the dust collector out of the corner should I ever have to service the unit.

The enclosure is a 2” x 3” frame skinned with ½” plywood. The plywood is cut so that smaller plywood panels could be removed to expose various areas of the dust collector. The top is the upper part of the impeller housing with the motor standing in free space above the enclosure. The bottom of the enclosure is the dust collection chamber, a sealed box with a door that houses the dust collection barrel. LED under cabinet lighting (to illuminate the dust collection barrel) and a polycarbarbonate sheet provide a view to the dust collection barrel while setting in the closed dust collection chamber. The filters set out side of the enclosure in a corner of the workshop on a pivoting platform connected to the enclosure. The enclosure and the filter platform are on castors. Filter-shielding plywood panels cover the shop facing side of the filters.

The space between the cyclone body and the enclosure is packed with 3-1/2” denim insulation. Denim insulation offers very good sound attenuation. I laid 1” thick UltraSonic sound absorbing panels on the top of the impeller housing, leaving about a 3” space all around the motor with air channels to cool the motor. The walls where the filters set and the filter shielding plywood panels were covered with sound absorbing 1”panels. The transition from the impeller and the filters was wrapped with sound absorbing insulation.

The result is a fairly quiet dust collector with a dust collection barrel that is easy to remove and a unit that is serviceable. It is barely audible in the living room and it can be run without the need for hearing protection. I upgraded the planer and jointer with helical cutter heads, so now the loudest machine is the table saw. TV viewing in the living room is no longer interrupted with a loud roar from the workshop. I do wear hearing protection in the shop since a tool plus the dust collector are still pretty loud.

If yours is a single stage dust collector, an enclosure or separate sound abated area where the dust collector sets is probably a better solution than an enclosure like the one described herein. But if you have a 2 stage dust collector, the enclosure has worked well for me.

I did add a second filter shielding plywood panel that hangs on the upper panel with a french cleat.

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sawedoff

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#11 posted 11-06-2016 03:42 PM

JBrow, thanks for the detailed reply. That is what I was thinking about doing for the same reasons.

How do you like the CV1800? I have been talking myself into getting one and am almost there!

-- still wet behind the ears.....

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#12 posted 11-06-2016 04:40 PM


The air compressor is loud and having that separation helps.

- Blindhog

I can understand getting the compressor closed in, just not sure about the DC.

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JBrow

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#13 posted 11-06-2016 06:19 PM

sawedoff,

I like the CV1800. It seems to be sold a la carte but they also offer it bundled, which is how I made the purchase.

It is extremely powerful with great suction. It offers dual stacked fine filter canisters. Together, the stacked filters provide a great deal of air filtering capability, far more than many other dust collectors. The result seems to be better performance and a longer period between filter cleaning. I clean the filters at 6 month intervals. My last cleaning with a backwash of compressed air yielded about 3-4 gallons of fine dust. I am a hobbyist and spend about 30-40 hours per week in the shop, so my dust collection is far less than that of a commercial shop.

I did add a second 4” dust ports to the planer, shaper, router table, and table saw (now with dual 4” dust ports). I felt that to take full advantage of the CV1800, these tools needed better dust collection. The downdraft sanding table, jointer and radial arm saw have 6” dust ports and a 5” dust port handles the drum sander.

I spent a fair amount of time building the enclosure, preparing the dust collection barrel, and assembling the CV1800. With life happening all around me, it took about a month (maybe 20 or 30 hours of work, but that is a guess). The piping cost about 25% of the cost of the CV1800 and took much longer to install. But then I was heat shrinking and expanding SDR-35 sewer and drain pipe and adding foil tape inside and out of the pipe for static charge control.

It has been operating for about a year and, with all the installation work and the sting from writing those checks behind me, I am very satisfied with the install and CV1800 performance. The shop is much cleaner with little fine dust settling out of the air. I also purchased the MacRabbet Bin Level Sensor. I am glad I installed this device because I kept planing when I should have emptied the dust collection barrel. The dust collection barrel overflowed. The Bin Level Sensor shut down the cyclone and thus saved me the headache of cleaning all that large debris from the filters.

By the way, Clearvue customer service was extremely helpful during the install. They patiently and promptly answered my many questions when I was putting the unit together. Most of my correspondence with Clearvue was by email (my preference).

I posted a review of the CV1800 a couple of months after I completed the install.

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/6762

I also posted a more detailed description of the enclosure build on Clearvue’s website at

http://www.clearvuecyclones.com/forum/forum/clearvue-cyclones/noise-control/1353-unique-portable-cv1800-enclosure

I also posted a description of the duct installation to the Clearvue site, in case you are interested. Clearvue seems to anticipate that PVC piping will be used with their cyclone, although other piping materials can be used.

http://www.clearvuecyclones.com/forum/forum/clearvue-cyclones/piping-and-dust-pickups/1361-duct-work-installation-using-sdr-35-6%C2%94-pvc

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#14 posted 11-06-2016 06:44 PM

JBrow….

You did a nice installation and sounds like it works well for you…nice documentation on the unit and build.

It would be very interesting if you tested it to get a performance curve. CV does not seem to publish one. It is a bit strange as they build a very good dust collector. I am certain that members here would appreciate the performance data. The performance curves published by most DC sellers leave a lot to be desired. More real data on several different units would be helpful to people deciding on which unit to get. I recently found my own curve helpful when I built a down draft sanding table.

I went through a similar process this year putting in a Oneida DC. When I put in my DWV pipe I considered adding the foil strips for static electricity and decided against it. So far, I have not received any shock from it.

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hotbyte

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#15 posted 11-10-2016 12:10 PM

I was wondering the same thing…


I m always puzzled a little by this question. When my DC is running so is another power tool, so I have to wear ear protection anyway. What s gained with the closet (asking out of ignorance)?

- Fred Hargis


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