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Ben

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11-05-2016 02:34 PM

I want to build myself a hard Maple workbench.
Local place charges $7.75/BF for 12/4 hard maple, which they call “select.”

There is a wholesale plywood/lumber place that can get my 12/4” for $4.50/BF, but they call it “FAS/FAB.”
Is it worth taking a chance in buying this for much less money?

Thanks.


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#1 posted 11-05-2016 02:56 PM

FAS should be the highest grade hardwood and size 6” wide or more and 8 ’ in length or more. Both sides of the board will meet the FAS designation. FAB is face and better and usually is a mixture of FAS and FAS one face (FIF).

Select at one time had one side FAS and the opposing side would be Common 1 grade or be near equivalent and includes lumber under the size listed above. I think depending on location select is equivalent to FAS just undersized.

I would go with the FAS personally based on price and wouldn’t have an issue going with lower grade (would then want to select myself) to build a workbench.

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#2 posted 11-05-2016 03:00 PM

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#3 posted 11-05-2016 03:03 PM

If your bench is 3” x 36” x 84”, your cost for the select lumber is only $488+ for the lumber. FAS would cost $283+ plus 20% for waste+340 plus tax. Since it’s your money I’m spending, I’d get the select and have just a small batch of scraps instead of 20% scraps….........Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson) www.woodturnerstools.com

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#4 posted 11-05-2016 03:32 PM

I would go with the cheaper cost, it should be just as good.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#5 posted 11-05-2016 04:01 PM

Really need to check with the suppliers and ask them what they mean by their designations just for clarification.

Maple hard wood… FAS>select.

http://www.nhla.com/assets/1603/rules_card9.pdf

http://www.esf.edu/wus/documents/IllustratedGradingGuide.pdf

Select would combine the grades of FAS one face (on the better face) and No. 1 Com (on the poor face).

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#6 posted 11-05-2016 04:04 PM

I can go to different places and source wood and usually a few will stand out as being consistent with industry standards. I think a lot of places just do whatever it takes to push wood.

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#7 posted 11-05-2016 07:34 PM

Thanks guys.
I found a local guy selling “sugar maple,” air dried 5 years, cut to 2 3/4”, 10’ long planks, been sitting outside in large stacks of stickered wood.
$1/ board foot.
Can’t beat that price. Might buy the whole lot if it’s clean.

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#8 posted 11-05-2016 08:13 PM

Me I work more on a relationship. I tend to find a good place that gives me a good tally and I respect that. I don’t walmart my suppliers as I know he needs to make some as well.

My first buy is a small one. I don’t challenge it, and I do my own tally when I get it home. If its short or he’s a jerk, it will be my last buy. If its decent, he’s got a steady customer.

If you do want to try that new location. Make a small buy and look at it. I would not buy several hundred BF sight unseen.

Good luck and share your experiece.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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