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SweetTea

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10-30-2016 02:17 PM

I have a customer that is wanting some new kitchen cabinets and doors in an espresso satin finish. Normally I build everything cabinet wise out of maple, but I have never been fully satisfied with the way maple takes dark stain. Perhaps I should use a pre stain conditioner in the future? Anyway, my questions are

What would be a good wood to use if the desired end result is an expresso color? Perhaps cherry? I think walnut would be perfect, unfortunately walnut goes for $1.89 per foot in 2” s4s, which is more than the customer wants to spend, especially considering the doors are raised panel.

Second question is what would be a good stain to achieve the desired expresso look? I was thinking General Finishes java gel stain? I normally use Shermin Williams oil based stains but I just don’t like the way any of them look on maple, but depending on the type of wood I end up using that might change.


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#1 posted 10-30-2016 02:39 PM

I’m pretty sure cabinet shop use conversion varnish or cat lacquer that is colored and layered on the doors to achieve the right color and protection.

It looks like that might not be within your capacity, so my friend three world for you:

Experiment, experiment, experiment!

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#2 posted 10-30-2016 03:17 PM

Now show me the place where you buy walnut for $1.89 b/f and I will go buy their all stock even if I have to drive from coast to coast.

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#3 posted 10-30-2016 03:53 PM


Now show me the place where you buy walnut for $1.89 b/f and I will go buy their all stock even if I have to drive from coast to coast.

- Carloz

”unfortunately walnut goes for $1.89 per foot in 2” s4s
He didn’t said per board foot.

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#4 posted 10-30-2016 05:39 PM

Alder with rustoleum kona stain.

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#5 posted 10-30-2016 06:15 PM



Now show me the place where you buy walnut for $1.89 b/f and I will go buy their all stock even if I have to drive from coast to coast.

- Carloz

That price was for 2” s4s walnut not per board foot.

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#6 posted 10-30-2016 06:17 PM



I m pretty sure cabinet shop use conversion varnish or cat lacquer that is colored and layered on the doors to achieve the right color and protection.

It looks like that might not be within your capacity, so my friend three world for you:

Experiment, experiment, experiment!

- Logan Windram

Yes I believe that you are correct. I am starting to research more about dyes, toners and such. There is a lot to it and I still don’t quite understand the process of using those products. Learning more every day!

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