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Forum topic by crosscut72 posted 10-28-2016 01:18 PM 700 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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10-28-2016 01:18 PM

Topic tags/keywords: 690 1023 g1023 g690 grizzly

The header says it all. I am one of those on the fence between the to saws. The grizz Christmas catalog starts next week. $75 off each saw so the price diff is about $200.My question, is the 690 worth the extra money? Been researching for weeks and down to these two. See posts regarding the duel between owners is a couple of years old. Would appreciate any updates. Many thx Rick


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#1 posted 10-28-2016 01:28 PM

I’m a big Grizzly fan, though I’ve never had an opportunity to use these particular saws. I’m sure that the 1023 will be all the saw you’ll ever need, depending on what you do, of course. However, if I were in your position and we were talking about a $200 difference, I’d likely go with the 690 just cause… LOL

I hope that helps.

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#2 posted 10-28-2016 06:21 PM

Thank you UVW, I am leaning towards the 690. I am sure I would love the 1023 but Grizzly themselves say the 690 is destined to be the next gold standard in table saws and who doesn’t like gold!

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#3 posted 10-29-2016 02:19 AM

I love my 690!

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#4 posted 10-29-2016 11:22 AM

Opinions seem to be pretty equally split between these two saws. Both have very strong followings are well liked for value and performance.

The G1023RL is a more updated design with devetail ways and a vertical mechanical screw lift for the blade height. It also has a serpentine style belt, is made in Taiwan vs China, and uses the well proven Shop Fox Classic fence. The stock rip capacity is only 26”, but it’s very easy to slide the front rail over to gain another 10” of rip.

The G0690 is more similar to the older G1023SL. Traditional triple v-belt drive, and a swingarm arbor. The same saw is (or was) available under the Craftex, Laguna, Bailiegh, Harvey, and Oliver brands….some have changed or dropped the design since it was introduced (possibly due to Grizzly beating their pricing). At one time the G0690 had an Asian made Leeson motor….not sure if that’s still true, but I haven’t read complaints about either motor being a problem.

There are also some differences in the dust collection and port locations.

Based on posts about comments from the Grizzly techs, a couple of years ago they seemed to favor the G1023. My preference would be slightly toward the G1023 for the arbor lift design, but you really can’t go wrong with either.

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#5 posted 10-29-2016 12:35 PM

Buy the best equipment that you can afford for the work that you do. If you have the extra $200 and feel that you need to spend it, then by all means go with the 690. I have owned my 1023 for 7 years and it has performed very well for me, and with the extra $200 you can buy a Forrest Woodworker II and make a big dent in a Freud Glue Line dedicated rip blade. Just my 2 cents for what that’s worth today. Good luck work safely and have fun.

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#6 posted 10-29-2016 12:51 PM

Thank you KS. I spent about 25 min on the phone yesterday with a product specialist (Thank you Lewis) who was very patient and answered all my questions. They are both great saws. What helped me put it in perspective was his comment “if you are a professional who will be cutting away everyday the 690 is probably your saw, if you are the occasional woodworker who enjoys the occasional project the 1023 will serve you well” The latter describes me. Coming from a 1.5 ho Rigid contractor saw, either would be a vast improvement. Until I push the “purchase” button not sure which I will choose. As Plan on this being my last table saw purchase ever, I want to make the wisest decision possible.

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#7 posted 10-29-2016 06:57 PM

Did Lewis mention why he said that? Just curious if it’s sales speak or if there’s some objective reason. In case it’d help, I’d give the tech guys a call and get their opinion.

Woodbum’s comment that the extra $200 buys a couple of nice blades is spot on, but you’re correct that either should be a really nice upgrade once setup and fitted with a decent blade.

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#8 posted 10-29-2016 07:27 PM

KS, not sure why he said that. Since talked for along time I think he was just giving me his opinion trying to out it in perspective. I did not feel he was pressuring me or favored one saw over the other.

Smoke, noticed you changed the fence on your 690 to an actual Biessy, did you not care for the original Grizzly fence?

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#9 posted 10-29-2016 08:11 PM

One of the reasons I did not get their G1023RL is its very limited width. It is only 26” which is even smaller than that of their hybrids. If you take the 52” version the price is equal to the G0691 which has the same width fence.
So price wise the saws are equal.
To me the bigger difference is the trunnion design.( and of course the color).

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#10 posted 10-29-2016 08:21 PM

I bought the 1023RLW for Christmas several years ago. No problems encountered.
Note that I have a one car garage and space is limited. I have it sitting near the overhead door. If I rip anything longer that 42 inches, I raise the door. Otherwise I work in air conditioned comfort. :-)

I followed KnotScott’s post and relocated my fence rails 10 inches to the right giving me 37 inches of rip capacity. I have built a lot of cabinets and that width limitation hasn’t hindered me as of yet. I am fixing to build 16 more for a rent house.

I don’t think you will go wrong with either say.
Good luck.
Mike

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#11 posted 11-05-2016 01:41 PM

Well it was a painful but happy decision between the 1023 series and the G0690 but….I went with the 690! Until I pushed the “buy” button I could have gone either way. It arrived yesterday after only 2 days reinforcing Grizzly’s legendary shipping speed.

Saw arrived UPS freight in perfect condition and excellent packing materials. As it turned out the UPS driver and I both have a number of Grizzly tools so we spent a few minutes talking shop which I thought was cool.

I am anxious to get it up and running. My only problem is we are moving this coming spring and my shop is in total disarray but I will figure something out.

Thx to all those who provided feedback, I appreciate it.

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#12 posted 11-05-2016 02:30 PM



Well it was a painful but happy decision between the 1023 series and the G0690 but….I went with the 690! Until I pushed the “buy” button I could have gone either way. It arrived yesterday after only 2 days reinforcing Grizzly s legendary shipping speed.

Saw arrived UPS freight in perfect condition and excellent packing materials. As it turned out the UPS driver and I both have a number of Grizzly tools so we spent a few minutes talking shop which I thought was cool.

I am anxious to get it up and running. My only problem is we are moving this coming spring and my shop is in total disarray but I will figure something out.

Thx to all those who provided feedback, I appreciate it.

- crosscut72

Congrats. It will outlast you and the next guy that owns it! :-)

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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