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mahdee

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10-28-2016 12:03 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw

Hi,
I have been searching for a decent table saw and can’t find any USA made ones. So far the only one that has caught my eyes is the Powermatic┬« Table Saw w/50’’ Fence & Riving Knife. I think they are made in Taiwan.

If you have one of these, what is your impression? Can I get something better than this for $1700?

-- earthartandfoods.com


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mike02130

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#1 posted 10-28-2016 12:30 PM

I’ve always been a fan of older American made Delta saws. They’re built like tanks and last forever. There’s no fancy gizmos or doodads, just a solid saw. Their Contractor’s saw comes with a 1.5 HP motor and their Unisaws I believe are 3 hp and more. Put a good fence on it and you’re set. I see used Unisaws going for $600—1,000 on Craigslist.

-- Google first, search forums second, ask questions later.

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BurlyBob

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#2 posted 10-28-2016 12:46 PM

I agree, find a good used cabinet saw. Those Powermatic T66’s are awesome. If I hadn’t come across the great deal on my Delta I’d have gotten a T66.

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Julian

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#3 posted 10-28-2016 02:09 PM

Powermatic table saws are very good saws. If your not in a hurry keep searching Craigslist. For $1,700 you can get a very good used TS.

-- Julian

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mahdee

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#4 posted 10-28-2016 02:25 PM

Thanks guys. My issue with Craigslist is that I live in a remote area and the two towns “near” me, Memphis 300 miles, and LR, 120 miles don’t have anything worth buying. One in Memphis has a Grizzly which is posted for more than a new one cost. Go figure.

-- earthartandfoods.com

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jbay

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#5 posted 10-28-2016 02:32 PM

Due to recent history with tools, May I suggest a Saw Stop?

(LOL, just kidding with you)

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Dwain

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#6 posted 10-28-2016 02:34 PM

Sounds like you are going to have to travel. I agree with the posts above. You can get a really good used cabinet saw for far less than $1,700. It may be older, but don’t let that bother you. If you can extend your search range, you may find something, I have no doubt you can do better than that Powermatic contractor’s saw, and for less than $1,700.

-- When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you CAN'T do

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mahdee

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#7 posted 10-28-2016 02:35 PM

jbay, I actually considered it but several reviews indicated that if the woods has moisture in it, it will trigger the stop. One guy had gone through 8 of the component that stop the blade. That’s 640 bucks!

-- earthartandfoods.com

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johnstoneb

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#8 posted 10-28-2016 02:50 PM

It takes really wet wood to trip the stop and you can bypass the stop in advance.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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Loren

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#9 posted 10-28-2016 03:19 PM

Buy used man. Plenty of old machines in your
state. Sign-up on owwm.org – post a wanted
ad and somebody will pony up a saw for
you. There are several long-haul drivers in
the group who will move machines cheaply.

Also, don’t forget ebay. With a $1700 budget
there’s a lot of room to pay for shipping on a
used machine.

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Planeman40

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#10 posted 10-28-2016 03:31 PM

I agree with mike02130 and Burly Bob, take that money and buy a used industrial saw!!! Yes, it will take some looking and a little time, however you will have a saw that will last for a lifetime. I suggest getting on the e-mail lists of some auction houses that specialize in used tools & machinery. Also, contact companies that sell industrial table saws. They often take in machines in trade. Always remember that most of these sources will ship the saw to you. An extra expense, but you are probably going to end up paying for any saw you buy to be shipped to you if you live in a remote area, even a new saw.

And one warning. Make sure the saw is single phase unless you are equipped with three phase current. Most industrial saws are set up for three phase current which is usually only found in industrial areas.

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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Sawdustonmyshoulder

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#11 posted 10-28-2016 03:36 PM

My 2 cents….... I bought a used Unisaw for $500 a couple of years ago. Sold the ‘Unirip’ fence on it and put a 52” Unifence on it along with a mobile base. Loved the saw. Plenty of power and ak-you-right!!!!

However, a couple of weeks ago, I was cutting a piece of 3/4” plywood about 24” x 31”. It got a bit askew and that thing came back at me!! Hit me in the hip. With all 10 fingers intact (thank you, Lord) I decided right then to get rid of it and get a saw with a riving knife. Now, I do know it was my fault and not the fault of the saw but when something like this happens, I am the one that will be in the line of fire; not the saw.

I did sell it for a nice profit and bought a new Delta Unisaw with a 55” Biesemeyer fence. Granted it was made in Taiwan and wish it was made in the US. Can’t help that. I was upset when they moved the Delta factory out of my town… Tupelo, Mississippi to Jackson, Tennessee.

Love the left tilt, front controls, easy blade change with the blade stop, vastly improved arbor nut/flange, dust collection, RIVING KNIFE, and improved mobile base.

Cost me 3 Grand but I do believe it is well worth it and a fella in Grenada got a good deal on a Unisaw.

-- The more skilled you are at something, the worse you are at it when someone is watching.

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ErichK

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#12 posted 10-28-2016 04:10 PM



I agree with mike02130 and Burly Bob, take that money and buy a used industrial saw!!! Yes, it will take some looking and a little time, however you will have a saw that will last for a lifetime. I suggest getting on the e-mail lists of some auction houses that specialize in used tools & machinery. Also, contact companies that sell industrial table saws. They often take in machines in trade. Always remember that most of these sources will ship the saw to you. An extra expense, but you are probably going to end up paying for any saw you buy to be shipped to you if you live in a remote area, even a new saw.

And one warning. Make sure the saw is single phase unless you are equipped with three phase current. Most industrial saws are set up for three phase current which is usually only found in industrial areas.

- Planeman40

A VFD is less than $200 and can convert 220-3phase to 220-1phase. If you can get a discount on the saw because it is 3 phase (since many have the above opinion), you can convert it really easy with a VFD.

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MrUnix

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#13 posted 10-28-2016 04:54 PM

And one warning. Make sure the saw is single phase unless you are equipped with three phase current. Most industrial saws are set up for three phase current which is usually only found in industrial areas.
- Planeman40

A VFD is less than $200 and can convert 220-3phase to 220-1phase. If you can get a discount on the saw because it is 3 phase (since many have the above opinion), you can convert it really easy with a VFD.
- ErichK

What ErichK sez ^^^

A three phase motor is significantly more robust and efficient than a single phase one, and since a lot of people are afraid of three phase, the machines sell for much cheaper. Throw a VFD on there and you have a bunch of features you can’t get anyway else, making it a much more capable machine. In addition, the VFD replaces the functionality of the starter that is on the machine, so you can remove it and sell it to get back most (or all) of the cost of the VFD.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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Planeman40

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#14 posted 10-28-2016 04:55 PM

ErichK makes a great point!!! Used three phase saws and other machines often sell at a much reduced price compared to single phase machines. If I were starting my shop over again I would install a three phase converter in the shop and run a separate three phase circuit for future larger industrial machines that I could buy cheaper.

Planeman

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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ErichK

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#15 posted 10-28-2016 04:57 PM


so you can remove it[starter] and sell it to get back most (or all) of the cost of the VFD.
- MrUnix

What? Dammit! I sold mine for $20….

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