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Forum topic by bbasiaga posted 10-28-2016 02:59 AM 423 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bbasiaga

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10-28-2016 02:59 AM

I have a Stanley No5, which I believe is a type 13. I’ve got it cleaned up, and sharpened the blade. It works, but what I’ve noticed is that the lateral adjustment needs to be far to the right (from the user’s perspective) to get an even cut. I have made sure the plane blade is sharpened square to its sides.

Since the plane works it may not be a big deal, but what could be out of adjustment to cause this? Seems like with the frog adjustment screw there, there is not really a way for the frog to get cockeyed. Everything seems to be sitting flat (Frog to casting, iron to frog).

Any advice on what to check?

Brian

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bandit571

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#1 posted 10-28-2016 03:45 AM

1: Double check the square and see IF the bevel is square to the sides…
2: Note how the iron and chipbreaker sit on the frog. They should be even with the edges of the frog. If the iron is “leaning to the right ( to make that cut) I’d go back and adjust the way the iron sits on the frog.
3: Turn the plane over, with the lateral lever set “amidships” and look at the bevel showing through the mouth opening. Adjust until it is even exposure.

Happen to have several #5 planes. Had ONE like this…...bevel wasn’t square to the sides…( check from both sides, laying the blade of the square on the back of the iron, just below the edge. Any out of square will show up better.

IF you have a Stanley #4 handy….drop that cutter into the #5 and see what happens. Irons for both are the same width. If both are Stanleys, the slot on the chipbreakers should also match.

Also…(longshot) but look at the slot on the chipbreaker, noting where the tab sits. Most should sit right in the middle of the slot. The tab is for the depth adjuster, and should be centered in the plane.

Might also check the “disc” the iron sits on the lateral lever at…...sometimes, they get too worn, and add a bit of slop there. It may take more than really need to move the iron one way or the other….

Also, make sure that disc sits IN the slot part of the iron…..if it isn’t IN the slot, there will be a gap between the iron and a face of the frog.

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#2 posted 10-28-2016 12:44 PM

All good stuff in Bandit’s reply, I’ll add one thing. Your statement, “Seems like with the frog adjustment screw there, there is not really a way for the frog to get cockeyed” is reasonable, but my reply would be “Don’t be too sure.” That the frog sits askew to the sole of the plane is still a possibility, even with the adjustment screw.

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HokieKen

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#3 posted 10-28-2016 05:14 PM

There’s also a possibility that the sole isn’t parallel to the frog bed or the mouth isn’t square to the blade. Also all the things bandit and Smitty said. There is some “slop” in the iron position on the frog. Get it pretty well squared up with the lateral lever in the center before you lock down the cap. Then fine tune it with the lateral adjustment. There’s a lot of things on older planes that could cause your issue but they’re all easily remedied. In fact, if having the lever all the way to the right makes it work well, then you’ve already fixed the problem.

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#4 posted 10-28-2016 09:16 PM



All good stuff in Bandit s reply, I ll add one thing. Your statement, “Seems like with the frog adjustment screw there, there is not really a way for the frog to get cockeyed” is reasonable, but my reply would be “Don t be too sure.” That the frog sits askew to the sole of the plane is still a possibility, even with the adjustment screw.

- Smitty_Cabinetshop

I agree with everything especially what Smitty wrote. There is a lot of side to side play in the yoke.

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rwe2156

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#5 posted 10-28-2016 09:52 PM

1. Cap iron not parallel to blade (most common cause).
2. Blade edge not 90 to side.
3. Frog not seated right.

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