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vintageguy64

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10-26-2016 03:05 PM

Hey folks,
I am a bit of a newbie to the forum, and a newbie to woodworking as well. I have used table saws, drill presses, chop saws and routers for many years. So I have a little bit of an idea on how to do somethings. I have recently started trying to get more serious about my woodworking. I have several projects in mind. I have also been trying to use a lathe, it has been a bit frustrating to get a decent project. Each time I seem to get a little better.

So what do you folks think of this lathe? I am looking at getting it as a replacement for my craftsman.

http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=9182

So the question, is this lathe any better than the craftsman. I know the powrcraft uses a 3/4” spindle, not the most ideal. However, my craftsman did too. So I already have a number of face plates and chucks for it.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

-- Yesterday is gone, today is happening, and tomorrow will come.


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GR8HUNTER

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#1 posted 10-26-2016 03:52 PM

they were good tools in the day …........ if you like it ….. that’s fine if not it is not fine

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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bigJohninvegas

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#2 posted 10-26-2016 04:02 PM

Have you checked to see if its still available? That ad is dated as last updated back in 2013.
Unless you are ready and able to do a total rebuild. I would avoid tools that old. Don’t get me wrong, some of the old stuff can be the best if you have the skil, knowledge, and patience to make it new again.
Get in touch with your local turning club. They will help alot with finding a deal on a good lathe.
Denver area is front range woodturners. I think the meet a the rockler store on colorado blvd.

Good luck.

-- John

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vintageguy64

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#3 posted 10-26-2016 04:29 PM



Have you checked to see if its still available? That ad is dated as last updated back in 2013.
Unless you are ready and able to do a total rebuild. I would avoid tools that old. Don t get me wrong, some of the old stuff can be the best if you have the skil, knowledge, and patience to make it new again.
Get in touch with your local turning club. They will help alot with finding a deal on a good lathe.
Denver area is front range woodturners. I think the meet a the rockler store on colorado blvd.

Good luck.

- bigJohninvegas


Hey John,
That link is to the same tool from an old online posting. Yes the lathe in question is available. I am an industrial maintenance technician by trade. Rebuilding equipment is what I did in my old life. So replacing bearing, bushing and what not is nothing new to me. I also know what means to start with a piece of junk and trying to make something out of it. They local guy is asking $100 for his lathe. It seem to be in a little better shape than the one in the link I posted – at least cosmetically.

And yeah, the turning club is at rocklers on colorado blvd.

-- Yesterday is gone, today is happening, and tomorrow will come.

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HokieKen

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#4 posted 10-26-2016 04:40 PM

What leads you to think it would be an upgrade from your Craftsman? In other words, what is it about the Craftsman that you don’t like? It’s hard to say whether or not this one will be any better for you. Lathes are pretty simple machines so unless there’s something wrong with the one you have, it’s unlikely that one as old as the one you’re considering is going to be a big improvement.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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vintageguy64

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#5 posted 10-26-2016 04:46 PM



What leads you to think it would be an upgrade from your Craftsman? In other words, what is it about the Craftsman that you don t like? It s hard to say whether or not this one will be any better for you. Lathes are pretty simple machines so unless there s something wrong with the one you have, it s unlikely that one as old as the one you re considering is going to be a big improvement.

- HokieKen

My Craftsman is the tube type. It seems like every time I adjust the lathe – move the tail stock, the centers are out of line. I also think is the spindle is not parallel to the plane. I don’t have an accurate enough tool to measure, but it appears to have at least .040 -.060 wobble(out of parallel, not play). The bigger the face plate, the more it accentuates the problem. Make sense? I would suspect a bent shaft, or other problem.

-- Yesterday is gone, today is happening, and tomorrow will come.

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#6 posted 10-26-2016 05:04 PM


My Craftsman is the tube type. It seems like every time I adjust the lathe – move the tail stock, the centers are out of line. I also think is the spindle is not parallel to the plane. I don t have an accurate enough tool to measure, but it appears to have at least .040 -.060 wobble(out of parallel, not play). The bigger the face plate, the more it accentuates the problem. Make sense? I would suspect a bent shaft, or other problem.

- vintageguy64

Then yes, I would think the Powerkraft would be an upgrade. Those tube-style lathes were always a flawed design. Not sure who thought a round bar would hold things flat and square.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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MrUnix

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#7 posted 10-26-2016 05:18 PM

Both having a 3/4” spindle doesn’t mean much if the thread pitch is different between them… both 3/4”-10tpi and 3/4”-16tpi are fairly common (although I believe 16tpi is more common than 10tpi). Either way, lathes are dirt simple machines to work on and basically the only thing you need to keep an eye on is the headstock spindle bearings. I would pull the spindle and examine them before putting it into any serious action, as otherwise you can do a lot of damage. Ball bearings are cheap and easy to replace, and bronze sleeve bearings will last forever if properly lubricated.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#8 posted 10-26-2016 08:02 PM

This could be the same lathe back in the day’s 1939 catalog. See page 50, headstock spindle 3/4” spindle, no idea on threads per inch head & tailstock MT1

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/270/6601.pdf

Just a light duty entry level lathe but could be a lot of fun. Think you should go see and hear it run before making an offer. You can check alignment and lock down the tailstock make sure doesn’t move. I would prefer it to a Craftsman lathe.

-- Bill

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vintageguy64

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#9 posted 10-27-2016 01:57 AM


This could be the same lathe back in the day’s 1939 catalog. See page 50, headstock spindle 3/4” spindle, no idea on threads per inch head & tailstock MT1

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/270/6601.pdf

Just a light duty entry level lathe but could be a lot of fun. Think you should go see and hear it run before making an offer. You can check alignment and lock down the tailstock make sure doesn t move. I would prefer it to a Craftsman lathe.

- Wildwood


I looked an on page 27 it looks like the exact lathe I am looking at. Further in hte catalog it references parts for the spindle as being 3/4-16. I ma going to see if I can get over and get it tomorrow.

here is a link to the local cl ad
http://denver.craigslist.org/tls/5840055437.html

I’ll post more when I know more….........

-- Yesterday is gone, today is happening, and tomorrow will come.

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#10 posted 10-27-2016 08:13 AM

Check the blog in my signature there is an article on buying vintage lathes

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#11 posted 10-27-2016 01:02 PM

That’s probably a lateral move and not a real step up. If that’s your budget I’d search for a vintage Delta or Homecraft lathe.

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#12 posted 10-27-2016 01:06 PM

It may be old but it’s a good machine. I was fortune enough to have this lathe given to me six years ago. It was already set up with a variable speed DC motor and speed control. I started with just spindle work and then purchased a Nova G3 chuck with the 3/4×16 adapter. Great set up. Sure I’d like a larger swing and it has its imperfections, but for now it suits me fine. I’ve got a lot miles on this old lathe, kinda like me.
Dave

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#13 posted 10-27-2016 01:14 PM

A 1/4 hp motor is a joke, unless you want to do small stuff. Your Craftsman probably has more power than this. I would skip this one unless you can get it for 50 bucks…......... Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson) www.woodturnerstools.com

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vintageguy64

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#14 posted 10-27-2016 01:29 PM



It may be old but it s a good machine. I was fortune enough to have this lathe given to me six years ago. It was already set up with a variable speed DC motor and speed control. I started with just spindle work and then purchased a Nova G3 chuck with the 3/4×16 adapter. Great set up. Sure I d like a larger swing and it has its imperfections, but for now it suits me fine. I ve got a lot miles on this old lathe, kinda like me.
Dave

- tblrxdave

Dave,
Are you saying you have the same lathe I posted in the link? If so, any issues that drive you nuts?

mark

-- Yesterday is gone, today is happening, and tomorrow will come.

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vintageguy64

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#15 posted 10-27-2016 01:31 PM



A 1/4 hp motor is a joke, unless you want to do small stuff. Your Craftsman probably has more power than this. I would skip this one unless you can get it for 50 bucks…......... Jerry (in Tucson)

- Nubsnstubs


Hey Jerry,
I would agree with the hp on this machine. If I do get this, I was going to move my 1 hp motor from the craftsman over to this lathe. I would think that would give me power to do anything on this lathe that it is capable of doing.

$50? I was thinking maybe a little more, something like $70-$80. thoughts anyone?

-- Yesterday is gone, today is happening, and tomorrow will come.

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