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handystanley

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10-15-2016 09:33 PM

Topic tags/keywords: random orbital sanders question sander sanding

Looing to purchase a new random orbital sander. Outside of Festool (out of my budget at this time) does anyone have any recommendations? Currently looking at either the Bosch ROS20VSC and the Milwaukee 6034-21. Both are 5” models.

Thanks.

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AandCstyle

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#1 posted 10-15-2016 09:40 PM

Stanley, I realize that it depends on the typical size of your work, but I suggest you consider 6” models. Your sanding will go much faster because the area under a 5” unit is less than 20 sq inches whereas under a 6” unit it is greater than 28 sq inches or a 40% increase in size.

I had a 5” Bosch until I upgraded to a 6” Festool. HTH

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#2 posted 10-15-2016 09:41 PM

I have the previous model Milwaukee and really like it.

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#3 posted 10-15-2016 09:42 PM

Sorry, duplicate post.

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#4 posted 10-15-2016 10:16 PM

I would suggest while you are still shopping to sign up with Festool or one of the dealers to get an email if/when they restart their $100 promotion for the Pro5 (ETS 125), they sold out in a couple of days of pre-order but for $100 you get one of the better 5” ROS in a Systainer along with a $50 voucher to be used on a later tool purchase. The ETS is the second best 5” single mode sander in Festool’s line (second to the brushless version) and those are only bested by the Mirka Deros but it is more expensive than the Festool offerings.

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#5 posted 10-16-2016 03:26 PM


I would suggest while you are still shopping to sign up with Festool or one of the dealers to get an email if/when they restart their $100 promotion for the Pro5 (ETS 125), they sold out in a couple of days of pre-order but for $100 you get one of the better 5” ROS in a Systainer along with a $50 voucher to be used on a later tool purchase. The ETS is the second best 5” single mode sander in Festool s line (second to the brushless version) and those are only bested by the Mirka Deros but it is more expensive than the Festool offerings.

- AHuxley


I got that email and almost took the bate. However the Frstool offering even with that deep discount is still overpriced. It is the weakest sander out there and is intended for kind of work that is usually done by hand.
Besides that Festool applies the force marriage tecnique making their tool incompatible with common accessories.

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#6 posted 10-16-2016 04:56 PM

I have the Festoon ETS125 and it is my favorite sander. paid $200 for it last year, so the $100 price is a good deal. It runs slowly, even at it’s highest speed, so it is then smooth running. It is light weight and that is why I like it. I am sanding small artsy crafty projects with it. If I was sanding large areas I would get a six inch sander as has been suggested.

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#7 posted 10-16-2016 05:28 PM


I would suggest while you are still shopping to sign up with Festool or one of the dealers to get an email if/when they restart their $100 promotion for the Pro5 (ETS 125), they sold out in a couple of days of pre-order but for $100 you get one of the better 5” ROS in a Systainer along with a $50 voucher to be used on a later tool purchase. The ETS is the second best 5” single mode sander in Festool s line (second to the brushless version) and those are only bested by the Mirka Deros but it is more expensive than the Festool offerings.

- AHuxley

I got that email and almost took the bate. However the Frstool offering even with that deep discount is still overpriced. It is the weakest sander out there and is intended for kind of work that is usually done by hand.
Besides that Festool applies the force marriage tecnique making their tool incompatible with common accessories.

- Carloz

The Pro 5 is a little over 2 amps and while it is certainly not the most powerful 5” finish sander if you need more power than that your technique is incorrect. The two sanders he mentioned are both small stroke finish sanders and the Festool Pro 5 which is the update to the ETS 125 is more than capable to do the jobs the Milwaukee and Bosch were designed to do. It is intersting that Jim mentions the ETS 125 runs slowly, it only seems that way because it is so vibration free, at its highest speed it is faster by more than 15% than either the Bosch or Milwaukee.

As for being locked into Festool accesssories I am not sure which ones you are locked into with a sander. You can hook up any vacuum with no more issue than most tools and several manufacturers make abrasives to fit the 9 hole pattern or one can always use Abranet which I find to be the best/longest lasting abrasive.

Now if the OP is planning to hog off large amounts of material then the Pro 5 is not a good choice, neither are any of the other fine stroke 5” ROS.

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#8 posted 10-16-2016 08:22 PM

Does it take regular sanding discs ? You are locked into using more expensive Festool abrasives. That alone disqualifies Festool sanders for me. It is the same as Apple Lightning connector with the sole purpose of being able to milk the customer.
This specific sander is a finishing sander. It works well as an auxiliary tool to a regular sander with larger stroke, but as I said many prefer hand sanding instead.

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AHuxley

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#9 posted 10-16-2016 08:55 PM



Does it take regular sanding discs ? You are locked into using more expensive Festool abrasives. That alone disqualifies Festool sanders for me. It is the same as Apple Lightning connector with the sole purpose of being able to milk the customer.
This specific sander is a finishing sander. It works well as an auxiliary tool to a regular sander with larger stroke, but as I said many prefer hand sanding instead.

- Carloz

First, it is indeed a finish sander but all the ones he mentioned are also small stroke finish ROS, so unless the OP doesn’t know what he wants or needs the Pro 5 is indeed a great option IF he can get hold of one, the regular price of the ETS 125 (which the updated Pro 5 will take the place of at some point) is what he based Festool being out of his price range.

I noted you don;t have to use Festool abrasive, however they do make very good abrasives and are cost effective when you consider how long they last compared to cheaper options. You can use Abranet which I think is the best but it is expensive. Klingspor and Rhinogrip as well as others make Festool 9 hole paper and some of the universal paper works for Festool (but I hate paper with more holes than needed as it means less paper life). Rhinogrip for example is good paper and runs $13-15 per 50 depending on grit.

The idea Festool locks you into the Festool world is a misconception mostly held by people that don;t own them or have not researched them. In most cases they are more expensive than the average tool found at the big box stores but USUALLY they are better but rarely the best. I use Mirka electric ROS sanders which I think are better but they are even more expensive than the similar Festool product.

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#10 posted 10-16-2016 11:16 PM

Handystanley,

I’d never buy less than my Festool, now that I’ve had one.

If you absolutely won’t spring for that, at least get a 6-inch. You’ll be amazed how much easier it makes your job.

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#11 posted 10-16-2016 11:39 PM

I never thought I’d have a use for a variable speed in an ROS, now I dont know how I’d get along without it !
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#12 posted 10-17-2016 12:05 AM

If I were buy non Felder and was on a budget I’d this one.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000VUN7Y?psc=1

If you look close there a video to watch.

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woodbutcherbynight

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#13 posted 10-17-2016 01:55 AM

Been using a Dewalt for 15 years, till it dies it stays. LOL

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#14 posted 10-17-2016 02:12 AM

I’ll stick with Bosch, thanks.

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