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Forum topic by Jonwilliam posted 10-14-2016 11:53 PM 776 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Jonwilliam

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10-14-2016 11:53 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bosch makita festool sander

Okay, looking for a dual mode 6” sander. My wife has a “vintage” store/business and often needs a ton of material taken off ancient wood. Personally I would really appreciate having the ability to quickly mow down material on my own woodworking projects. Thirdly I appreciate a finely polished car(waxing and polishing is zen for me) so these three are on the list. Bosch 1250, Makita 6050j, Festool RO150.

I own products from all three. I can find a ton of reviews on Festool, some on bosch, none on Makita. Anybody have any experience with the new Makita?

They all seem comparable to the Festool and/or beat festool on paper. However, 600 for a sander is a tough nut to swallow. The Makita is $319 from acme tools. The Makita for price and specs seems to be in the middle of the two. The hole pattern on the Makita seems to be similar/same as the festool for the sandpaper.

I’m not looking to be sold on the festool, there are so many reviews already and if I had the cash I would. I’m wondering if anybody has used all or some of them especially the Makita since there isn’t anything out there on it and it seems to be pretty dang similar.

Thanks in advance

-- -Redwood Falls MN


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Loren

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#1 posted 10-15-2016 02:40 AM

The Festools are said to be hand-balanced in the
factory. Even though the Bosch look very similar
I haven’t seen that claim. The differences is likely
to be how it makes your hand feel after awhile.

The older Festool Rotex’s are very good too. The older
models can be got on ebay, etc.

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Drew

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#2 posted 10-15-2016 01:49 PM

Bosch – hands down!!
It can sand more aggressively and leaves behind a lot less swirl. I can sand a table 30-40% faster with the bosch than festool and have a better finished surface. My festool only comes out when both borsch’s are being used.
The festool seems like a nice tool, but once you use the bosch you’ll know better.
As for the makita? No one has one

-- TruCraftFurniture.com

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bonesbr549

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#3 posted 10-15-2016 02:59 PM

I’ve got the festool and if DC and ergonomics is important to you then the festool is the winner IMO. I value my lungs and they start with DC in mind and then design the tool. If you use any of their tools for any length of time you will appreciate the ergo. Not cheap but you get what you pay for.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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AHuxley

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#4 posted 10-15-2016 09:29 PM

I have owned the Makita 6040 (not 6050) and can say it is a very agressive tool. However, the Festool for fast removal would be the RAS 115 it will handle the built up paint/finish much quicker than anything you have listed but the process becomes a 2 sander job since the RAS 115 is anything but a finish sander. I will say that hogging off layers of unknown finish leads me directly to the dust collection of the Festool line as collecting dust and unknown contaminents is always best at the source, even if you wear a proper mask you are still contaminating your clothing/body and the environment you are sanding in. If the budget allows I would choose the proper sanders for the job from the Festool line. The Rotex is a great sander but won’t be as quick as the other options or the two sander approach I am advocating.

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Drew

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#5 posted 10-15-2016 11:36 PM



I ve got the festool and if DC and ergonomics is important to you then the festool is the winner IMO. I value my lungs and they start with DC in mind and then design the tool. If you use any of their tools for any length of time you will appreciate the ergo. Not cheap but you get what you pay for.

- bonesbr549

Dust collection is every bit as good on the bosch. Ergos are just as good too. Matter of fact, I think the bosch handles better.
Don’t waste your money like I did… Buy the bosch

-- TruCraftFurniture.com

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CopperTree

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#6 posted 11-06-2016 08:19 AM

Interesting… I haven’t picked up my Bosch, Makita, or DeWalt ROS’s since my Rotex 150 purchase. If I need anything else I reach for my DTS 400. Festool sanders tied in to one of their vacs makes for a very efficient and dust free sanding station.

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Drew

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#7 posted 11-07-2016 03:15 PM



Interesting… I haven t picked up my Bosch, Makita, or DeWalt ROS s since my Rotex 150 purchase. If I need anything else I reach for my DTS 400. Festool sanders tied in to one of their vacs makes for a very efficient and dust free sanding station.

- CopperTree

Have you used the duel action Bosch (1250DEVS)?

I can’t imagine anyone that has used this sander to any extent that would think the festool RO 150 is better.
Just my opinion, but I’ve used both for hundreds of hours.

-- TruCraftFurniture.com

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Jonwilliam

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#8 posted 11-08-2016 12:05 AM

Well folks I bought a couple festool sanders since posting this, DTS 400 and the 6” brushless one. (don’t tell the wife) I have used both a bit and like them both a lot, each of them having their own purpose. I guess in the past I’ve used my Milwaukee 5” for all manner of sanding from heavy to fine. It has worked very well with no complaints. However from using a festool sander (7X the price) you do notice better dust control (not 7x) but you definitely notice vibration. The big F has little. Sandpaper is fantastic as well as dust management. For the money what do you expect though huh. Plus that brushless festool sounds so cool when it starts up! By the way, the first sander(brushless) they sent me didn’t work right. It would only orbit 1 time in 5 seconds on speed setting one, all other settings worked fine. It was like the motor was locking up or not even trying. But Acme Tools had me a replacement the next day. (great company to do business with)

Now like I said I would like to do some polishing also with the dual action sanders. Festool just doesn’t seem like a double-the-price tool to accomplish mowing out wood or polishing. Other than dust control, why buy them for 6hundred vs half or less with Bosch and Makita. I could buy sandpaper for all my sanders for 10 years with the money saved.

I’m really interested if anybody has used both of them, or all three. Personally I don’t see the economic benefit for festool in this case. For the price that thing should be brushless or at least come with a pile of sandpaper.

Someone wrote that pairing a festool sander with a festool vac makes for a dust free experience. I take issue with that. Just about hooking up any vacuum to a sander will make a near dust free experience. I’ve had cheap vacs and my spendy Bosch Vac090s hooked up to all manner of sanders and they do great. The reason I got the Bosch is for the self cleaning filter. Flippin slick. Still on the first filter with never using a bag and I’ve put that thing through all manner of horrors.

-- -Redwood Falls MN

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Jonwilliam

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#9 posted 11-08-2016 12:09 AM

By the way Drew your posts are a great help with keeping big F low on the list.

-- -Redwood Falls MN

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ClammyBallz

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#10 posted 11-08-2016 09:16 PM

No complaints here on my Bosch 1250. Takes standard 8 hole discs which are easy to find and inexpensive.
BTW, Acme has 10% off today.

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