need advice: New 1-3/4hp or used 3hp Table saw

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10-14-2016 03:00 PM

looking to get back into woodworking and want an accurate full size table saw. My budget is $1000.00 but can stretch to $1500.00 so Saw Stop is out. I found a Jet JTAS 10XL deluxe (3hp 50” Exacta II fence) used but in mint condition. Serial # check with Jet found unit is a 2000 model manufactured in Taiwan (not China) Pros; in budget, heavy, accurate, HP for current and future needs. Cons; seller firm at $1200 (which I feel is over priced), no warranty, no wheels for mobility, and no riving knife. My other option is a new Laguna Fusion (1-3/4hp 50” fence) currently on sale for $1450. Pros; new with warranty, built-in wheels for mobility, riving knife. Cons; with tax and shipping will be over my budget limit, lighter unit with less hp. Need advise on the following: 1 which is the better option (price aside for now), 2 how overpriced is the Jet, 3 is the riving knife enough of a safety upgrade to be a major factor in my decision 4 are there other options I should consider. Need help ASAP because if the Jet is a good option I’ll be pulling the trigger this weekend before it’s gone.

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#1 posted 10-14-2016 03:10 PM

I have the Jet table saw and $1200 is a good price if it’s mint condition. You can always buy a riving knife and mobile base. The Laguna Fusion is not worth $1450 in my opinion.

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#2 posted 10-14-2016 03:16 PM

I’d get the Jet.

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#3 posted 10-14-2016 05:41 PM

I owned 4 table saws, which were a cheap jobsite, two 2.0HP hybrids and now 3HP cabinet saw.
While the saws are very different none of them lacked power. Even the $80 jobsite saw with standard kerf 40 general purpose blade ripped through 8/4 hard maple with no problem. Hybrids were stronger, I am not even mentioning 3HP.
I think you need higher HP if you are in production environment where 10 seconds lost in ripping a 10ft board hits your pocket. Otherwise the power should be a secondary condition when looking for a saw.
I would say both saws you are looking at are at a toss. I would try talking down the Jet owner to $1000 that would be a more appropriate price for a 16 years old saw.

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#4 posted 10-14-2016 06:17 PM

I’d go with the 3hp. If i bought one. But i’d wait and look around. Soon as you buy one usually a super deal shows up. If possible wait. 1200.00 for a used,16 year old saw is a lot of money. Or it is to me, but just my opinion.

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#5 posted 10-14-2016 06:19 PM

Keep looking… for what you are willing to spend, you can get a lot more machinery than what you are considering.


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#6 posted 10-14-2016 06:40 PM

The Jet is alot more saw than the Laguna hybrid, and has a better fence, but I agree $1200 is a little steep for a 16 YO saw…probably close to what they paid. You could always make your offer on the Jet, then wait him out. Or keep looking, as Brad suggested.

Have you considered something like a new Grizzly G1023RL? New, warranty, riving knife, 3hp, Shop Fox Classic fence, vertical elevation screw with dovetail ways, made in Taiwan…it’s a nice saw at a great price. $1350 if you pick it up. ($1449 to your door).

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#7 posted 10-14-2016 08:12 PM

For that money I agree with the above comment about getting more machine for what you’re willing to spend. If you can, I’d suggest getting a powermatic 66 used. You can find them in great condition. Make a splitter and you’ll have arguabley one of the best saws ever made.

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#8 posted 10-15-2016 02:11 PM

Thanks to all for the advise. Knotscott I didn’t know much about Grizzly, but this saw seem to be a better option feature wise. Also the delivered price leaves room in my budget for other tools I need to get started.
I’ll be reproducing built-in cabinets in a 100+ year old home and making furniture for same, so cut accuracy and fence quality are my main concerns (my 100.00 jobsite saw is little more that a circular saw on a stand.) Does anyone know how the Grizzly fence compares to the Jet Exacta II commercial 50” fence? Mlipps I looked at quite a few Powermatic saws but most had seen heavy commercial use,were wired for three phase power, and/or had older style fences. The few I did see that were clean, 220v 1ph, with newer style fences were fetching 2K+. Wife approval factor says I can’t spend more on this cabinet project doing it myself than I would pay having it done. Hence the tight budget. If the consensus is that that the Jet is a better machine Laguna and the Grizzly is comparable to the Jet then I’ll hold off the used saw. Any last opinions or other options I have not considered?

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#9 posted 10-15-2016 03:29 PM

New griz vs used jet? No brainier….......griz every day. Is the jet a right or left tilt? Left over right tilt is the preferred choice every time. Jet doesn’t have a riving knife like the griz. But, griz isn’t that pretty Jet white color.

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#10 posted 10-15-2016 06:14 PM

... Does anyone know how the Grizzly fence compares to the Jet Exacta II commercial 50” fence? ...

- LGBDad

The fences are pretty similar designs. Which is preferred is pretty subjective, but I have owned and used both. They’re both functionally equivalent, and are pretty beefy, easy to use, etc. AFAIK, the Jet Xacta II fence is made in the USA. Overall I have a slight preference for the Xacta II fence, but it’s pretty much a toss up.

Jet vs Grizzly is sort of a Chevy/Ford debate. There are pros and cons with each, they vary from tool to tool, model to model, and year to year. Jet always had a strong dealer network and longer warranty, along with an appropriate premium for those perks….neither of which will help you in the used market. Both are good saws. Grizzly is a reputable company, and the G1023RL is well proven….it also has a more updated design than the Jet. If the Jet was $900-$1000, it’d be a toss up IMO….at current price levels, IMO a new G1023RL is the better buy.

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#11 posted 10-16-2016 11:50 AM


Something to remember, Grizzly and Jet are made by the same people. Grizzly, you can only buy thru Grizzly, while Jet is the “retail” model and you can purchase thru wood stores. Yes, there are a few minor differences (especially price), but both are made in the same factory. Its like in the truck world, Chevy and GMC

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#12 posted 10-16-2016 03:08 PM

Are you sure about that ? Grizzly and Jet produce very different machines. The models do not overlap. The components do not match.

It is Shopfox not Jet that are made y the same people aa Grizzly.

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#13 posted 10-16-2016 08:27 PM

Grizzly and Shop Fox are owned by the same person, and have several models that are very similar. Jet is a completely different company, though over the years, some of the models have come from the same factory and have been very similar. The Jet saw in question is quite a bit different than the current G1023rl.

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