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Belgianguy

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10-13-2016 01:45 PM

Hi, My name is Miroslav and live in Belgium. I have been building a 2 family house together with my brother for the last couple Years. We build in brick and concrete so it’s a bit different than the way houses are build in the US. I am planning to do most of the finish carpentry myself. I do have some probably odd questions. I can’t figure out the reason why, when You are making a face frame kitchen cabinet with inset doors… that You have a overlap of Your face frame on the inside of the cabinet. Wouldn’t it be a lot easier for installing hinges… if the face frame would be flush with the inside of the box and have a overlap on the outside of the cabinet, to keep the same visual effect. Is there a reason why there should be overlap on the inside or is this something everyone does without asking the reason behind it. I hope You understand what I am trying to say.

Thanks for the answer,

Miroslav


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bondogaposis

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#1 posted 10-13-2016 02:01 PM

Face frame cabinets are an older design and for inset doors the best hinges are butt hinges. In that configuration the hinges attach to the face frame. so it makes no difference if the frame is offset from the inside of the cabinet. I think you are thinking euro hinges which are designed for frame less cabinets. Euro hinges can be used with the addition of a spacer behind the face frame to make it flush with face frame or there are some specialty hinges for face frames I believe. The best solution is to use butt hinges, if you are going to have inset doors on a face frame cabinet.

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#2 posted 10-13-2016 02:06 PM

Miroslav,

Yes, you certainly can build them that way. No, the other way won’t make hinges more difficult because there are hinges specific for face frame inset doors.

I’ve seen cabinets made both ways but yes, most are flush on the outside. I think it makes assembly easier because you don’t need a spacer at the back.

Curious whether you building them as one single unit or individual boxes?

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Belgianguy

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#3 posted 10-16-2016 05:24 PM

Hi there,

Thanks for Your answer, I’ll be making them flush on the interior with an overhang on the outside. I would try to make as many single units as possible (for instance 2 or 3 cabinets as being one piece of furniture, saves on the material and it looks more like furniture and not a box with a door in front of it).

Do You have any experience using pocket hole assembly on MDF or particle board, prefinished ply is hard to get out here, and all the kitchen they sell are made from particle board. Very rarely in MDF and ply is the big exception, almost never used in Belgium.

Miroslav


Miroslav,

Yes, you certainly can build them that way. No, the other way won t make hinges more difficult because there are hinges specific for face frame inset doors.

I ve seen cabinets made both ways but yes, most are flush on the outside. I think it makes assembly easier because you don t need a spacer at the back.

Curious whether you building them as one single unit or individual boxes?

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#4 posted 10-16-2016 06:59 PM

Personal preference in my opinion. I like this way

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