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Matt C

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10-13-2016 01:44 PM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw amp

Hi all!

Just joined however have been navigating these forums for a while. Great advice and suggestions from everyone.

Solely evaluating a saw’s amperage-is it better to have a hybrid saw at 13 amps versus a portable saw at 15 amps? Just getting into wood working and intend to be more of a craftsman than contractor/home improvement. Looking to stay under 600.00 for the initial investment until I can build my craft.

Thanks in advance everyone!


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Bill White

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#1 posted 10-13-2016 01:59 PM

Quick answer. YES!
Most portables that I’ve seen have the universal (brushes) type motor, while hybrids have an induction motor.
Keep in mind that I haven’t been in the saw buying market for quite some time.
Bill

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#2 posted 10-13-2016 02:05 PM

I’d agree with Bill on the amps, but that aside a hybrid is going to be the better saw for your purposes anyway.

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#3 posted 10-13-2016 02:08 PM

It’s very likely it will take you longer to outgrow a hybrid saw than a portable saw. Most if not all hybrid saws use a quieter, more efficient induction motor vs. the noisy universal motor found in most portable saws. Another advantage of a hybrid is the belt drive allowing you to replace a belt when worn vs. having gears strip (with very few exceptions) in a portable saw. The added heft and larger table are also great assets for a saw that doesn’t need to be moved on a regular basis. Some portable saws will not accept a full width dado set either where as most hybrid saws will (be sure to check before committing to one).

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WhyMe

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#4 posted 10-13-2016 03:05 PM

Agree with what’s been said. I’ll add for a sub $600 saw the Delta 36-725 sold at Lowe’s is a good starter saw. I’d be surprise if you have not seen this saw talked about on this forum.

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Matt C

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#5 posted 10-13-2016 03:39 PM

Thanks everyone! I’ve picked up alot of the other features that make various saws nice or better than others but hadn’t seen anything talking about the amps. Wanted to make sure that a 13 amp induction wasn’t a step down from a 15 amp motor on the portables.

Wanted to focus on that component as there are many great discussions already on here around the table saw.

Thanks for the plug WhyMe. I stopped at the Lowes a couple of weekends ago and was quickly disappointed due to staff not taking the time to set up saw correctly so it was hard to make a good evaluation on it. Thinking of waiting for the good ole Black Friday event to see who makes the best offer.

Have a great day fellow Lumber Jocks!

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#6 posted 10-13-2016 03:42 PM

Two different types of motors. Universal motors are loud and rely more on high RPM for cutting. Induction motors are much quieter and have a lot more torque (better IMO).

With the hybrid, you’ll gain a lot more than a quieter motor with more torque too – The working area in front of the blade is much larger (safer), there’s a lot more mass, lower vibration, standard miter slots, stronger materials of construction, and is much easier to upgrade.

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Matt C

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#7 posted 01-23-2017 07:35 PM

Thanks everyone again for the feedback. Based on budget-I committed to the Rigid Hybrid Saw. Haven’t assembled it yet but looking forward to that this weekend.

Have a great day everyone!

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MrUnix

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#8 posted 01-23-2017 07:42 PM

Based on budget-I committed to the Rigid Hybrid Saw.

IMO, based on all the feedback on those saws, that is like flipping a coin… hope yours lands heads up and not the other way around!

Cheers,
Brad

PS: You cannot directly compare FLA ratings between universal and induction motors. Different animals – induction motors will produce more horsepower than a universal motor rated at the same FLA. And you can just ignore any rating that says ‘peak horsepower’ or ‘max developed’.

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#9 posted 01-23-2017 10:05 PM

Too right Mr. Unix.
My Ridgid vac has 6.25 HP splattered all over it. That’s the peak rating developed right before it blows up and burns down the shop.
Aside from the outlandish HP rating, it IS a good vac.
Bill

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knotscott

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#10 posted 01-23-2017 11:15 PM



Too right Mr. Unix.
My Ridgid vac has 6.25 HP splattered all over it. That s the peak rating developed right before it blows up and burns down the shop.
Aside from the outlandish HP rating, it IS a good vac.
Bill

- Bill White

Ha! Mine’s 6.5hp…..way better! ;-)

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becikeja

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#11 posted 01-24-2017 11:40 AM

I wish tool manufacturers would refrain from inferring that the higher Amp rating is better, because it simply is not an accurate statement and causes a lot of confusion. We do want to know how many amps a tool will draw so we can size the protection circuit appropriately to protect the wire feeding the machine. BUt amperage in itself could be a reflection of true HP or a reflection of inefficiencies in their motor design. I believe HP ratings are much more valuable, but even these can be misleading. What you really want to know is voltage, full load amps, torque, rpm’s, and motor efficiency rating. With this information you can do a true comparison. But good luck getting manufacturers to give you this information up front. You will have to do some digging if you can find it all.

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