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CaptainMan

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10-11-2016 12:37 PM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw buying advice used

Hi everyone,
I’m a beginner woodworker and this is my first topic post.

I found a Craftsman 10in Table Saw on Craigslist that looks like a decent deal but I’d like the opinions of some more experienced woodworkers.

It’s a craftsman 10in model 113. The seller put a new belt and motor on it recently, and he says he upgraded the fence. He is asking $200 obo

I have done some research and it seems like a fair deal, but I want to be sure I’m not missing something.

Also, when I go see it in person is there anything I should be looking for specifically? Any red flags I can look for, or good signs as well. I appreciate the help. I’ve attached as many photos as possible.

-- learning the old fashioned way, YouTube!


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01ntrain

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#1 posted 10-11-2016 03:18 PM

Boy, that thing sure is a cobbled together mess, isn’t it? LOL J/K

You’ve got two different brands of extension wings….one is the Craftsman, not sure about the other one. Some people use them, some don’t….they have a tendency to pinch fingers and catch on sheet goods.

Not sure about the maker of that fence. It’s def not OEM-Craftsman….which is a good thing. It looks like one that was made by Grizzly and discontinued, but from what Ive read….it was a solid fence.

It’s got the red belt, which could mean it has a PALS kit, too(Google it). Check for machined, not cast pulleys. This is def a good thing. Power it up and check for vibration. Hell, run a piece thru if he will let you.

If the motor and arbor check out, I think it could be a solid saw for a beginner. Considering the options that it has, and a new saw with the same features costing almost 3X as much, this is a good deal.

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Roy Turbett

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#2 posted 10-11-2016 03:28 PM

Value is in the eye of the beholder. CL in my area has the asking price on this saw going for $60 to $400. Keep in mind that a good quality sharp blade such as a Forrest Woodworker II adds value. Conversely, figure you’re going to spend some money on a blade(s) if the one(s) that come with the saw are junk.

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CaptainMan

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#3 posted 10-11-2016 03:29 PM


Boy, that thing sure is a cobbled together mess, isn’t it? LOL J/K

You’ve got two different brands of extension wings….one is the Craftsman, not sure about the other one. Some people use them, some don’t….they have a tendency to pinch fingers and catch on sheet goods.

Not sure about the maker of that fence. It’s def not OEM-Craftsman….which is a good thing. It looks like one that was made by Grizzly and discontinued, but from what Ive read….it was a solid fence.

It’s got the red belt, which could mean it has a PALS kit, too(Google it). Check for machined, not cast pulleys. This is def a good thing. Power it up and check for vibration. Hell, run a piece thru if he will let you.

If the motor and arbor check out, I think it could be a solid saw for a beginner. Considering the options that it has, and a new saw with the same features costing almost 3X as much, this is a good deal

- 01ntrain


Awesome thank you for that info, you answered everything. Ill look into the PALS kit and make sure to bring some wood to put through it. Any concerns from the oxidation? Im expecting some minor touch up, but hopefully I can save the miter gauge, if not ill buy one.

-- learning the old fashioned way, YouTube!

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CaptainMan

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#4 posted 10-11-2016 03:30 PM



Value is in the eye of the beholder. CL in my area has the asking price on this saw going for $60 to $400. Keep in mind that a good quality sharp blade such as a Forrest Woodworker II adds value. Conversely, figure you re going to spend some money on a blade(s) if the one(s) that come with the saw are junk.

- Roy Turbett

Makes sense, Im expecting to spend on normal use items but Im mostly concerned with the core pieces i.e. motor, base, and fence. I dont expect to get an a masterpiece of CL but if its a good value and the core pieces are there Ill take care of the rest.

-- learning the old fashioned way, YouTube!

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01ntrain

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#5 posted 10-11-2016 03:59 PM


Awesome thank you for that info, you answered everything. Ill look into the PALS kit and make sure to bring some wood to put through it. Any concerns from the oxidation? Im expecting some minor touch up, but hopefully I can save the miter gauge, if not ill buy one.

- CaptainMan

To me, that rust is pretty minor. There’s loads of threads here about different ideas in rust-removal…..to me, some are overly-complicated. Get some WD-40, a few Scotch-Brite pads and a little elbow-grease should take care of it. Coat everything in Johnson’s Paste Wax, and you’re set. Make sure to check the internals, and shooting some of the WD on the moving parts wouldn’t hurt, either.

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johnstoneb

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#6 posted 10-11-2016 04:10 PM

The miter gauge is junk don’t worry about cleaning it. Put an aftermarket on it that is much more accurate and can be tightened in the slot. The red belt is a linkbelt usually put on to lessen the belt vibration it is not a sign of PALS. You don’t need the PALS to align the blade to the table but it can be handy if it is there. Looks like a good fence. Overall a good saw for the money, offer$150 for start. Anytime you put obo just says you will take less.

The wheels were put on backward. 1 leg is bent from forcing it to move when all the legs weren’t off the ground. That will give you some ammo to get a price reduction.

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ErichK

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#7 posted 10-11-2016 04:21 PM



Boy, that thing sure is a cobbled together mess, isn t it? LOL J/K

You ve got two different brands of extension wings….one is the Craftsman, not sure about the other one. Some people use them, some don t….they have a tendency to pinch fingers and catch on sheet goods.

Not sure about the maker of that fence. It s def not OEM-Craftsman….which is a good thing. It looks like one that was made by Grizzly and discontinued, but from what Ive read….it was a solid fence.

It s got the red belt, which could mean it has a PALS kit, too(Google it). Check for machined, not cast pulleys. This is def a good thing. Power it up and check for vibration. Hell, run a piece thru if he will let you.

If the motor and arbor check out, I think it could be a solid saw for a beginner. Considering the options that it has, and a new saw with the same features costing almost 3X as much, this is a good deal.

- 01ntrain

The green on the extension makes me suspect Grizzly, which is helped out by the Grizzly fence, guessing he bought them both from the same person.

Cast pulleys are what came on that saw, and likely not an issue. The blade on it seems like a Diablo taht has been well used, so he’ll need to replace it.

THAT SAID, $200 for a 113 with a solid fence is a good idea. 27” web extensions go for ~$35 each around here, so those are a nice bonus.

OP:
Buy it, and make the first project on it a new stand/cabinet to get rid of the crappy stock legs, and you’ll have a darn nice saw.

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toolie

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#8 posted 10-11-2016 04:50 PM

those saws can be dialed in pretty well with a little bit of effort. I’d skipped the PALS and here is how mine performs on beveled rip cuts (and yes, releasing the work piece when i did was not one of the smartest things i ever did, and haven’t done since):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvTS7pfhfsU

Anything under what the seller is asking makes this a better deal.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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CaptainMan

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#9 posted 10-11-2016 05:24 PM

Great. I am sold. Ill take down notes of what to look for and upgrade. Im glad I found this and asked the LJ community. You guys rock.

I actually found this by responding to a router listing and the guy said he also had this table. Pretty sweet.

-- learning the old fashioned way, YouTube!

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knotscott

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#10 posted 10-12-2016 01:20 AM

That looks like a pretty nice deal to me. Looks like an Excaliber fence. With a new motor, link belt, and the fence, I think it’s worth $200 all day.

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