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10-06-2016 04:33 PM

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I am new to wood working and am looking for a decent inexpensive table saw to make bird house’s with. Later I will probably evolve some more. Is this a decent starter saw? I see both good and bad reviews and it is always hard to really tell how it would work for what you need it for as opposed to what a cabinet maker would want/need. Wife probably won’t let me spend over $500 right now and this saw is on sale at sears for $275.

Ant thoughts?

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#1 posted 10-06-2016 05:11 PM

If all you plan on using it for is small projects (birdhouses) and infrequent use, then it will suffice – but anything more and you can quickly toast that saw. For what you are looking at spending on that new piece of plastic, you might want to consider looking at the used market and getting a considerably better saw for significantly less. Anything with a real induction motor (instead of one of those plastic housed, pseudo-direct drive universal screamer motors) would be a huge step up.

Cheers,
Brad

PS: If you do get that saw – there are several modifications/fixtures that you can incorporate to make it marginally more useful. First would be to grid down the miter slot tabs so you can make your own sleds. You will find that the miter gauge is a worthless POS, so a cross-cut sled will probably be one of your first projects :)

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#2 posted 10-06-2016 06:37 PM

Make sure what ever you get has standard miter slots.
For close to $300 there are several other choices out there I would chose over Craftsman.
Porter Cable, Dewalt, or Bosch just to name a few.
I’d go for a compact easily portable saw so it would still have a useful feature if I step up to a cabinet or hybrid saw later. I have a big saw but could make use of a portable ocassionally if I had one.

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#3 posted 10-06-2016 07:36 PM

Go with the Porter Cable. They have a great replacement parts program.

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#4 posted 10-06-2016 07:37 PM

I have been eyeballing a Delta. I definitely want the table to extend out for ripping plywood in half. That was what was drawing me to the craftsman.

What size is a standard miter slot?

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#5 posted 10-06-2016 07:49 PM

I just looked at the porter cable model PCB22TS. It seems to have all that has been talked about. It is more than the craftsman but with my military discount it will knock over $30 from the price. If I can talk the manager into giving me the 18 month finance it would be even more of a plus.

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#6 posted 10-06-2016 07:52 PM

Hmmm 12 month is going on right now. That is workable. I’m about to pay off another 18 month. Give me room.

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#7 posted 10-06-2016 08:17 PM


I have been eyeballing a Delta. I definitely want the table to extend out for ripping plywood in half. That was what was drawing me to the craftsman.

What size is a standard miter slot?

- Wildvortex

If you think you will be manhandling sheet goods on that Craftsman, then I suggest you go look at one in person. Pay particular attention to 1) the lack of weight (easy to tip over) due to just about everything on it being plastic, and 2) the flimsy plastic clamps that hold on the slide out extension wings. Pull one out, give it a little weight, and see just how much it will deflect downward. I have one of those saws that I use as a router table, and just the weight of the router mandates putting a prop under the extension to keep it level with the rest of the table You try to run a 4×8 sheet over one and it will most likely just break.

Standard miter slots are 3/4”. That C-man has 5/8” slots with tabs that protrude into the slot (aka: a poor mans t-slot) – which makes sled runners and other accessories that fit in the slot very difficult to use unless you grind the tabs off.

Cheers,
Brad

PS: Sheet goods, regardless of what saw you have, is best broken down first with a circular saw and some kind of guide. Use the table saw for trimming to final size.

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#8 posted 10-06-2016 08:31 PM

Thanks Brad, I am seeing what everyone is talking about. I don’t plan on running alot of sheets but want to be able to when I do want to run a sheet or two.

Steve

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#9 posted 10-06-2016 10:35 PM

Those saws are aimed at people with little to no experience, and little knowledge of what they’re getting in return for their money. I don’t mean that to sound like an insult, but you were smart enough to ask, so I’m telling you. Saws like that are the bottom of the food chain. For the same money (or less), you should be able to find a good used full size cast iron contractor saw with a belt drive induction motor….whether a Delta, Jet, Craftsman, Grizzly, Ridgid, Bridgewood, Mao Shan, Ohio Forge, Omega, etc., the bones of a decent contractor saw (or hybrid saw) offer much better potential.

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#10 posted 10-07-2016 12:17 AM

A good old sturdy saw is always better than a new lightweight saw. Go around look at several table saws in your area and see what you think after that. Also if there is a woodworking group in your area, speak with them.

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#11 posted 10-07-2016 01:04 AM

I have been keeping an eye out for a saw on Craigslist or craplist. All the saws I have seen are roached or low end saws. There are a couple of cabinet saws that I would love to have but the money is not there.
I have no qualms about buying a lesser saw and after selling a few projects the wife will fall in line just like she did with my knives. Then I can convince her about a better saw. After all, just got done buying a used joiner, lathe, ridged planer, and rigid barrel/belt sander. All used but the last 2 were never used.

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#12 posted 10-07-2016 01:18 AM

I have a Jet Xacta saw 10” 3hp. 52” Xacta fence and out feed table. I still like to cut large sheet goods with my home made track guide and circular saw. The kickback on ripping 3” off a 4×8 sheet of 3/4 plywood can be quite frightening.

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#13 posted 10-07-2016 01:30 AM

What’s your nearest city?

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#14 posted 10-07-2016 11:46 AM

I am in Anderson SC

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#15 posted 10-07-2016 11:56 AM



I have a Jet Xacta saw 10” 3hp. 52” Xacta fence and out feed table. I still like to cut large sheet goods with my home made track guide and circular saw. The kickback on ripping 3” off a 4×8 sheet of 3/4 plywood can be quite frightening.

- pontic

I am sure the kickback can be ugly. I have felt with a couple. In a situation such as that wouldn’t it be easier to cut that small a cut with a circular saw a little larger say 3.25 then clean it up on the table? Or does that put you too close to the blade with your guide hand?

-- Use caution, slow down, and use the tool properly...the ER would love to have your money...don't give it to them.

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