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Sawdust2

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01-03-2008 07:05 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question dust collector

I’ve got my shop pretty well the way I want it but am looking as making the dust collection system automatic. When I open the gate at the tool I want the collector to go on.
I know that is usually done with a micro switch but I do not know how to wire it up.
If someone can point me to a website or someone else’s blog on automatic blast gate switches I would appreciate it.

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.


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Douglas Bordner

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#1 posted 01-03-2008 08:20 AM

Lee,
Take a look at this link. It’s to a remote control device that turns on the collector, which may not be the exact thing you are looking for. You would still have to set the gates to the appropriate machine and then turn on the collector as a separate step. But this seemed reasonably priced and the business is located in Atlanta.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#2 posted 01-03-2008 11:09 AM

Surfing Woodcraft.com I ran across a closeout item that will start up your dc System with the opening of a blast gate.

www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5031

You may have to copy and paste this address to make it work.

Dalec

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Sawdust2

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#3 posted 01-03-2008 12:29 PM

Doug, that is what I have now from a different manufacturer.

Dale, that is pretty much what I was looking for. I didn’t know that they were commercially available ‘cause the two systems Ive seen were home made. I’ll have to call the local Woodcraft store to see if they have the unit on hand. Otherwise it’s over the net. Looks like it’s a closeout sale.

thanks, guys.

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

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#4 posted 01-03-2008 05:33 PM

Sawdust2,

Glad to be of help finding this item.

Dalec

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#5 posted 01-03-2008 05:45 PM

Sawdust:
If you visit a vacuum store that sells central vacs for houses they can show you their contact switch plates and probably offer you a wiring diagram. Bascially the gates are just wired in series so that any one contact that is closed will make a circuit to the relay. The relay will close and turn on the appliance.(DC)
It’s harder to explain than to make one. They will probably have micro switches too and or you can buy gates preassembled and just run bell wire to each gate and to the relay. The relay will have a step down transformer like the one used for your door bell to drop the line voltage from 110 volts to 24 or 12 volts.
I have built several over the years and have wired several Dental office with these systems for auto switching of theri suction systems.

Good Luck

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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odie

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#6 posted 01-03-2008 06:17 PM

Got it…JDS makes one and Rockler sells it. http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=17220&filter=25779
Click on that address.

-- Odie, Confucius say, "He who laughs at one's self is BUTT of joke". http://woodstermangotwood.blogspot.com/ (my funny blog)

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motthunter

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#7 posted 01-03-2008 06:25 PM

I also like a remote control in my pocket or in my belt to turn it on and off. It costs less and works just fine.

-- making sawdust....

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#8 posted 01-03-2008 07:26 PM

I concur with motthunter.

Having a remote will save you money and simplify your installation. They make one for either 220V or 110V.
I have been using one for about 5 years now. You can turn it on or off exactly when you want to.

For the price of about one gate you can buy this.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/102-0441505-4653738?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=long+ranger+psi

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Sawdust2

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#9 posted 01-03-2008 09:02 PM

Bob#2 I checked with the local vacuum guy who was helpful but out of town until next week. The net cost would be about $20-25 less than buying the system that is on sale.

I already have the remote system, but it is for 110 and I am converting the system to 220. Plus, I have the annoying habit of setting the remote down somewhere and forgetting where I set it. I have it centrally located hanging on a spring from the ceiling. So I go around making sure gates are open or closed and then pushing the button and then going back to the machine to be used. The biggest problem is my tendency to lose the remote.

I’m putting the belt sander, the drill press and the Rigid oscillating sander on the dust collector system so it is a good time to take care of all at once.

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

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odie

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#10 posted 01-04-2008 03:58 AM

Sawdust2, you did not mention the Rockler link I put above. I thought it was exactly what you were looking for. You open a gate and the collector goes on. And it’s made by the best in the business…JDS.

-- Odie, Confucius say, "He who laughs at one's self is BUTT of joke". http://woodstermangotwood.blogspot.com/ (my funny blog)

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Sawdust2

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#11 posted 01-04-2008 04:42 AM

Well, Odie, I did. The JDS and Long Ranger are both just what I was looking for.I shop at both Woodcraft and Rockler. They are about equidistant from my office but Woodcraft is closer to my home.
If I were to have purchased the JDS system from Rockler it would have been about $150 for my needs. The Long Ranger, being on sale was about 2/3rds that price. Woodcraft also had the JDS system at the same price as Rockler..
I could not look inside the electronics on either but the construction on both appeared about the same and the gates were just the same. Funny, the gates with the switches were less expensive than plain gates but otherwise the same.
I will have to run the dust collector and the band saw off the same line but at 220 the power draw is equal to or less than if it were run on 110.

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

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motthunter

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#12 posted 01-04-2008 04:55 AM

maybe you can get the clapper like the one on the “as seen on TV ” crap. You can clap on or clap off the dust collector without a remote… that is if you buy a dust collector with low DB noise… The best feature is that if a kickback from a machine hits the wall, the noise will shut it down… Just don’t listen to Queen’s “We will Rock You” int he shop because all the clapping will most likely ruin your machines. Just playing. I am glad to hear that you have a good solution. both the JDS and long ranger are good choices. I prefer not ot do business with Rockler myself. The guys at Woodcraft here in Cleveland, Ohio are the best.

-- making sawdust....

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odie

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#13 posted 01-04-2008 04:55 AM

Just trying something David showed me. You started this image grabing thing…well your question did. Anyway here it is. Glad you worked it out .

-- Odie, Confucius say, "He who laughs at one's self is BUTT of joke". http://woodstermangotwood.blogspot.com/ (my funny blog)

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Sawdust2

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#14 posted 01-12-2008 01:15 PM

The gates are installed. The dust collector has been converted to 220v.
System works great. Just what I wanted (for now).

I now have a Rockler 110v remote and 4 4” plastic blast gates to sell.
Rockler lists the remote at $51.99 and the gates at $4.99. each. I’d let them go for half price plus shipping (unless you live close to Atlanta)

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#15 posted 01-12-2008 01:44 PM

You don’t have to replace the gates, only the remote that they hook up to. The remote has a transformer that reduces the voltage to 12, or 24 volts, the same as the 110 system. It’s almost like a thermostat on a furnace.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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