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Forum topic by TheWoodsmith posted 06-23-2010 12:16 AM 2548 views 1 time favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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TheWoodsmith

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06-23-2010 12:16 AM

How do you fella’s go about sizing stock? I rip my common widths for the project and crosscut from that .is that the most efficient way as far as least scrap? Even though i get lumber cheap i still dont wanna throw away more than i have to!

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nailbanger2

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#1 posted 06-23-2010 12:36 AM

I’m a bad example, because I only have a bench top jointer, but I cut to what I need for length because using my jointer gets harder the longer the board is.

-- Wish I were Norm's Nephew

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wseand

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#2 posted 06-23-2010 12:45 AM

I square one edge, plane the faces to about a 1/16th of final thickness. Rip than square other edge. Edge glue to within 1/4 in of final width, but varies. Plane to final thickness, Crosscut and rip to final dimension. Usually Crosscut last. So long story a bit longer I usually end up ripping then crosscutting, but not sure if this saves any wood, more of a procedural standard than anything.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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CampD

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#3 posted 06-23-2010 12:55 AM

If im making a cabinet or a set. I run it all thru the planner to the same thinkness, less sanding later. I then rip all my stock 1/16+ over and run it all thru the surface planner on edge in groups taking just 1/32 of each side. This way all my stock is exactly the same in width & thickness. Then crosscut to length.

-- Doug...

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rance

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#4 posted 06-23-2010 12:56 AM

Assuming you are already familiar with squaring your lumber…

If you don’t have to match any grain, then begin with your longest required piece and try to get it from the shortest board you can. Contrast that with the error if you were to start preparing for your shortest pieces and you cut them from you only one long board. You could be in trouble quickly. Don’t ask me how I learned this one. :)

When you need to match grain on multiple pieces, treat them as one and go back to the above paragraph. Just my 2c worth. Not the only approach here.

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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miles125

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#5 posted 06-23-2010 01:24 AM

It depends. Say you have a 2×12 x 72 oak board and you want 1- 2×10 x 36 and 5- 2×2 x 36. Obviously a crosscut comes before the rip. Theres definitely an art to envisioning lumber yeild two steps ahead of any cuts. The correct answer is it takes a combination of rips and crosscuts first in the interest of best yield.

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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SnowyRiver

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#6 posted 06-23-2010 01:54 AM

Providing I am using pieces big enough to easily handle on the machines, I joint one edge, surface plane it, then cut it to width.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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CampD

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#7 posted 06-23-2010 02:18 PM

I like to rip all my pieces from the long stock first, this way any extra, say 1 1/4” wide is still full length that can be used for molding, instead of cross cutting everything first and having a bunch of short 1 1/4” pieces.

-- Doug...

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rance

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#8 posted 06-23-2010 04:18 PM

Wayne, you joint an edge before planing it? Should I assume you jointed the first face prior to jointing the edge? :)

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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TheDane

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#9 posted 06-23-2010 05:19 PM

I assume were talking about making panels?

I rip to rough width, then joint one face, and joint one edge to get a 90-degree edge. Next, I surface plane, then cut to width with a glue-line rip blade. Then I cut to rough length and do the glue-up.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Cato

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#10 posted 06-25-2010 01:19 PM

I go to the jointer first for surfacing one side and edge, then to rip a little oversize, saving the decent width strips for later use and then to thickness planer which again will be a little thicker than finish size, usually about 1/16 thicker if it is a panel, then finally to the crosscut saw.

I do tend to get ahead of myself a lot of times and get out of sequence and end of with weird size waste pieces. Irks me, but knowing this will probably happen I always build the booboo factor in when I buy the rough stock.

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