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tbconst

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06-22-2010 02:22 AM

Topic tags/keywords: hand tools borrowing lending

Am having some trouble with people borrowing my tools. There are a total of two guys on my crew whom I have no problem borrowing tools to, but there are those who tend to leave them lying where they last worked so another person ends up picking them up to use…never quite makes its way back to my pouch unless I chase them down and have to ask for it. Then others promise to “use it quick” then return it, but what I come to find out is they used my pair of tin snips to nip a chunk of wire (AAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!). One might say that I could just say “No” but the majority notice I borrow to the two responsible and throw a hissy fit. I have mentioned this to the boss, and he was on my side, but its rather hard for him to have my back when hes running another job. One possibility is a car key deposit or a right testicle? Any thoughts?

-- Bobby


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Stuey

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#1 posted 06-22-2010 03:36 AM

If these guys are as careless with your tools as you suggest, then even a car key deposit or something of the sort won’t be enough to change their attitudes or personalities.

I’d let them throw their hissy fits.

-- http://toolguyd.com

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birdguy

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#2 posted 06-22-2010 04:22 AM

Ii hear ya I juust have a toolbox with a padlock most have a place for lock Just controlls iit

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NathanAllen

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#3 posted 06-22-2010 04:56 PM

Maybe buy some of the tools for her pink stuff that keeps floating around. Lug those around as spares and they’ll get the message pretty quick.

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Abbott

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#4 posted 06-22-2010 05:14 PM

I was drywalling a house once and one of the Tapers dumped out my tool bucket full of tools onto the floor and used my bucket to mix up his mud. When I went down to the basement and discovered this I took my bucket full of his mud upstairs and out to his car and dumped it onto the hood. I then washed out my bucket and went back to work. Other then a bit of loud talk and a few stomps he never bothered me a again. I have gotten a lot of good chuckles out of the memory.

-- Ohh mann...pancakes and boobies...I'll bet that's what Heaven is like! ♣ ♣ ♣ ♣

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Kent Shepherd

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#5 posted 06-22-2010 05:57 PM

Who cares if they thow a hissy-fit. You bought the tools, not them. Seems like today no one is accountable for anything and the responsible ones pay the price. Don’t hesitate to tell the abusers why they can’t use your tools. Maybe they will learn. Or it won’t be your problem anymore.

I used to furnish tape measures for my guys in the shop. They would not keep up with them or usually abused them. I spent a fortune on them. I finally got tired of that and made them buy their own. It has amazed me how long their tapes last now, and they rarely loose them.

It is not your place to furnish everyone tools. (Even the guys that take care of them)

-- She thought I hung the moon--now she just thinks I did it wrong

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nailbanger2

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#6 posted 06-22-2010 06:15 PM

Maybe it was the time that I started in the const. field, 28 years ago, but my first boss gave me tools the first day and told me I could use them for that day only. He also told me how to take care of them and that if I didn’t he would take their cost out of my pay. He said he would pay me for the day in cash, and if I wanted to work the next day, I would take that cash and go get some of my own. He suggested I go to a pawn shop for used tools.

What if I can’t find any? Don’t waste the gas coming back tomorrow. Real good advice on the pawn shop. I found and apron full of Craftsman tools and exchanged for new. I still have the framing hammer.

Seriously, there are a LOT of carpenters out of work right now, you’ve got to let them know this.

-- Wish I were Norm's Nephew

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nailbanger2

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#7 posted 06-22-2010 06:16 PM

Abbott, too funny! I tape and finish also, a bucket is another tool.

-- Wish I were Norm's Nephew

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DaddyZ

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#8 posted 06-22-2010 06:35 PM

My policy is to not loan to anyone!!

They disappear to Easy

-- Pat - Worker of Wood, Collector of Tools, Father of one

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rance

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#9 posted 06-22-2010 06:38 PM

The two most under-used words these days, “responsibility” and “accountability”.

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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Dave Pearce

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#10 posted 06-22-2010 06:59 PM

Loan to the two reliable guys, tell the rest to pound sand unless they learn to take care of them like the two reliable guys, which means they come back to you right away, and you better not find anything wrong with them.

Otherwise you’ll end up in a argument over who owes you a new tool and who’s going to pay for it.

-- http://www.pearcewoodworking.com

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Howie

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#11 posted 06-22-2010 07:32 PM

Years ago I needed to borrow a knife(i left mine at home) from one of my coworkers. He handed me a 69 cent imperial pocket knife. I laughed and kidded him about his beer can pocket knife. He looked at me and asked if I was going to bring it back when I was done to which I replied yes. He replied that he used to carry and expensive knife and if he loaned it he never got it back. He said, I always get that one back.
I loaned a guy one of my best wood chisels and he brought it back, with a big ding in the edge. Hit a nail he said,sorry. After that I have two sets of chisels, one for me and one for “loaners”.
People tend to take better care of an item if they had to pay for it themselves.

-- Life is good.

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Uncle_Salty

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#12 posted 06-22-2010 07:57 PM

Never lend my hand tools, or carpenters tools. Some tools, however, I do lend. I lend my log splitter to my next door neighbor pretty regularly. I have loaned one of my air compressors to a co worker so he could spray mud on his walls.

But on the job? Never.

BTW… I can’t believe a guy would dump another man’s tools out and use his bucket! You did the right thing by dumping the mud out on the guy’s hood. Hard lesson to learn.

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sikrap

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#13 posted 06-23-2010 12:05 AM

The only tools I lend to people are the ones I don’t care if I get back. Its difficult to say “No” to friends and family so I keep my eyes open at garage/estate sales so I can get “loaners”. That way, if the $.50 chisel doesn’t come back or comes back with a ding in the edge, I don’t care. If the borrower had done that to one of my 750’s, I’d be livid.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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SnowyRiver

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#14 posted 06-23-2010 02:01 AM

Yep, let them whine….I’m like Norm Abram, I dont borrow tools to anyone. The first time that someone mentions possibly borrowing something I tell them right away I dont borrow tools.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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Ken90712

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#15 posted 06-23-2010 10:52 AM

I have a neigbor like this. He would barrow them and never return or leave them outside. I finally told him no more, and he has never mentioned it. We pay alot of money for them so they can cry all they want.

With that said, I do loan tools out to some people that I respect and that would loan me tools as well. My father always said,” if you need to barrow it more than once son, then you need to buy it!”

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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