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Forum topic by Doc911 posted 09-26-2016 01:37 PM 1262 views 0 times favorited 27 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Doc911

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09-26-2016 01:37 PM

Greetings;

A quick question to all in the know…

I am thinking of building a few humidors for some friends & I am wondering if I can use either Western Red Cedar from British Columbia (preferred choice) or Eastern White Cedar(only other option in Canada). I live in the Rockies so getting Western Red Cedar shake & shingles from my backyard is easy & FREE, if you know how to split shake blocks, & I know how. My present stock has been stacked & drying for 4 years already & has a 7% moisture content.

Anyone have some thought to share, my mind is open & I’ll appreciate any advice given. Thank You for taking the time to read & reply…

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splintergroup

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#1 posted 09-26-2016 04:58 PM

Red cedar is good.

Worth a read: Humidor wood

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#2 posted 09-26-2016 05:19 PM

I have a humidor made from eastern red cedar that I like very much. Don’t see why western red wouldn’t work just as well.

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#3 posted 09-26-2016 06:52 PM

^ What they said…!!!

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#4 posted 09-26-2016 07:20 PM

I cannot attest to how well it will meet the specific needs of a humidor but I have used WRC for a few projects. I use fence pickets from the HD and was able to resaw and plane them down to 1/4” boards. I used WRC to make the octagonal parts bin and puzzle box in my projects list. Note that WRC sometimes is not kiln dried and is often stored outside so if you purchase some, make sure that you get it dry before you start milling to your needs

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#5 posted 09-26-2016 07:31 PM

I think if you look around you can find KD WRC (not HD crap)

http://www.mcilvain.com/softwoods/western-red-cedar/

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#6 posted 09-26-2016 09:05 PM

This is very interesting. I thought that Spanish cedar offer a unique flavor to the cigars. I would have thought the red cedars would have a negative flavor. I know little about this and am intrigued to learn more. Keep it coming.

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Lazyman

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#7 posted 09-26-2016 10:10 PM

Out of curiosity, I just did some research on Spanish Cedar and discovered that it is not actually a type of cedar. It is actually a broad leaf species related to mahogany which is probably the second most commonly used wood for humidors. So substituting another wood called “cedar” is not necessarily the right way to go. One account that I read said that “American Cedar” (whatever that is) could be used for humidors because it does a good job of regulating the humidity and keeping tobacco beetles away but it can lead to a woody flavor in the cigar if stored too long.

Based upon what I read, I would look at types of wood other than WRC.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#8 posted 09-26-2016 11:17 PM

I am not a cigar smoker but I make a lot of eastern red cedar boxes and I am occasionally asked if they would be suitable for cigar storage. I do not recommend them for this use. I do not think anyone would like their cigars to smell/taste like a hamster cage. Cedar chips are used in cages.

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#9 posted 09-27-2016 12:33 AM

What Lazyman said. Spanish cedar is not cedar but it’s nearly indistinguishable from mahogany, just not as pretty.

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#10 posted 09-27-2016 03:07 AM

Neither Spanish cedar, Eastern cedar, nor Western red cedar are cedars. None of them are closely related to each other in any way. Genuine mahogany comes closest to Spanish cedar.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#11 posted 09-27-2016 03:11 AM



Neither Spanish cedar, Eastern cedar, nor Western red cedar are cedars. None of them are closely related to each other in any way. Genuine mahogany comes closest to Spanish cedar.

- bondogaposis

The things I learn, here! A little “truth in advertising” with respect to wood naming would be welcome.

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#12 posted 09-27-2016 03:38 AM

Jim Finn that’s a very funny and unique perspective on the merits of cedars. Like you I’m not a cigar smoker but I definitely see your point!

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#13 posted 09-27-2016 04:00 AM

Western Red cedar is a known carcinogen and the sawdust is considered HAZMAT . . .

M

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Rick M

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#14 posted 09-27-2016 04:04 AM

Ha, I didn’t know that either.


Neither Spanish cedar, Eastern cedar, nor Western red cedar are cedars.
- bondogaposis

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#15 posted 09-27-2016 05:25 AM



Neither Spanish cedar, Eastern cedar, nor Western red cedar are cedars. None of them are closely related to each other in any way. Genuine mahogany comes closest to Spanish cedar.

- bondogaposis

Good point. There are no true cedar species that are native to North America. Most of the native species we call cedar are in the cypress family. The most common true cedar we see in NA is deodar cedar often planted as an ornamental. But I digress. I would not use WRC for a humidor.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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