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Forum topic by JakeK posted 09-23-2016 06:27 PM 333 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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JakeK

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09-23-2016 06:27 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bed farmhouse joinery rails

OK don’t laugh, but i am planning on building a project from Ana White’s plans. My wife found these bed plans online and asked that i make it for my son. Here they are: http://www.ana-white.com/2010/01/plans-how-to-modify-farmhouse-bed-to.html. I am far from an expert woodworker, but i think i am better than the DIY style of screwing and nailing 1x lumber together to make a bed. I wanted to try to maintain the look of the bed that my wife wants (AKA keep the peace) but also change things up so it uses better methods of joinery, etc. I am wondering if you can help me improve on these plans. Here are my initial thoughts.

1) Mortise and tenon the headboard and footboard rails to the posts, or possibly loose tenons/dominos
2) For the rails on the headboard/footboard, i thought maybe i’d make those out of either a solid piece of stock or if i cant find anything that wide, a glue up. Then maybe a dado that the vertical slats can fit into? Or possibly tongue and groove the slats into the rails?

If i did either of those options, i’m assuming i wouldn’t want to glue the vertical slats in? If not, would the frame be strong enough to prevent racking?

3) I thought i’d use some sort of bed rail fastener that can be attached to the rails and headboard/footboard instead of just screwing it together.

Any other ideas are welcome. Thanks in advance for your help.


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bondogaposis

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#1 posted 09-23-2016 06:54 PM

If i did either of those options, i’m assuming i wouldn’t want to glue the vertical slats in? If not, would the frame be strong enough to prevent racking?

Yes, it will plenty strong enough if you use mortise and tenon joinery to join the rails to the posts.

Another thing to consider is that if you are going to use construction lumber like the plans call for it will be wet by furniture grade lumber standards and will shrink considerably once brought inside a heated house. That will could cause issues with the joinery. Get your wood thoroughly dry before you begin or use furniture grade hardwood. I think wives should be banned from looking at Ana White.

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JakeK

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#2 posted 09-23-2016 07:01 PM

Thanks for the response. I should’ve mentioned i plan to mill my own lumber.

What are your thoughts on the slats? Put them into a dado? T&G? Domino? Or should i lower myself to sandwiching them between 2 pieces of 1x and call it a day?

My day job is working in IT. I think i will block that site from our network. Now what to do about smart phones….

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#3 posted 09-23-2016 07:59 PM

You could ship lap the panels, easier than tongue and groove and still allows for movement. Then slide them in a dado.

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#4 posted 09-23-2016 08:32 PM

I was thinking about that. She wants small bevels on each panel edge. That might be a little harder to accomplish with a ship lap panel. For T&G i figured i could maybe just run the panels through my router bit set and then hit them with a chamfer bit without bearing on it on the router table. Or maybe there is such a thing as a tongue and groove set with a built in chamfer?

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#5 posted 09-23-2016 08:38 PM

There’s nothing shameful about using Ana White plans. I’ve built bunk beds and a farmhouse table from her plans. I did change the joinery to suit my level of ability, though. Good luck with the construction of the bed! I like the ship lap idea. I’ve used the dado before and it was very difficult to get the lowest board through the whole dado without beating it in place.

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JakeK

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#6 posted 09-23-2016 08:56 PM

I’m sure it would work when its done if built from her plans, but it is my son’s first bed and I want it to be something I can be proud of. Just my opinion, but i guess i feel like if i’m only going to nail and screw it together, i might as well head to ikea and pick up a bed :) ok maybe that was a bit of an exaggeration.

For the Dados, i’m thinking that since the panels arent structural, i wouldnt have to make the dados very deep. maybe 1/2-3/4” ?

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JakeK

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#7 posted 09-23-2016 09:03 PM

These bits might fit the bill. I havent heard much about MCLS quality. maybe whiteside or freud or someone makes a bit set like this as well: http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/bit_tongue_groove.html

although i’m not sure i want the bevel to be that large

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#8 posted 09-23-2016 09:12 PM

1/2” max. it just has to hold the panels up. If it’s a good fit 1/4” would even do it.

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