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06-18-2010 08:58 PM

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I have seen in a couple of comments made on projects where people are talking about using hardwood or softwood. As a beginner, I am not sure how to tell the difference between the two. Can someone please post an explaination of how to distinguish the two?

-- Jim -- Louisville, KY


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#1 posted 06-18-2010 09:03 PM

How about this?

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#2 posted 06-18-2010 09:08 PM

That should work…

-- Jim -- Louisville, KY

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#3 posted 06-18-2010 09:10 PM

That about sums thing up alright, but I’d disagree with #8.

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#4 posted 06-18-2010 09:20 PM

Anybody else want to argue over Poplar being hard or soft? lol

-- Jim -- Louisville, KY

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#5 posted 06-18-2010 09:33 PM

The general meaning of these types of wood are:

Hardwoods are deciduous, have broad leaves that seasonally fall off.

Softwoods are coniferous, have needle leaves and are generally evergreens.

The designations have nothing to do with the relative hardness or softness of the woods.
Example, Southern Yellow Pine is a softwood but it is usually much harder than poplar, a hardwood.

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#6 posted 06-18-2010 09:56 PM

Hobomonk got it right , its a classification not a description

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#7 posted 06-18-2010 10:11 PM

That helps too…thanks guys.

-- Jim -- Louisville, KY

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#8 posted 06-19-2010 12:34 AM

A few examples:

Hardwoods include walnut, cherry, poplar, oak, maple.

Softwoods include spruce, fir, pine, cedar, redwood.

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#9 posted 06-19-2010 12:46 AM

If I remember right balsa is categorized as a hardwood. showing hardwoods don’t have to be hard. Confusing isn’t it.

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#10 posted 06-19-2010 06:16 AM

wow Jim…you can say that again.

-- Jim -- Louisville, KY

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#11 posted 06-19-2010 06:34 AM

JJ, Check out this info…
Janka hardness test
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janka_hardness_test

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#12 posted 06-19-2010 10:24 AM

Good info for all.

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#13 posted 06-19-2010 04:39 PM

The chart in the link says hardwoods are found everywhere, while softwoods are found in the northern hemisphere. Are there no softwoods in the southern hemisphere?

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#14 posted 06-26-2011 10:38 PM

The real kicker is that balsa is technically a hardwood.

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#15 posted 06-26-2011 10:59 PM

It is more challenging in some ways to do fine, detailed work
in softwoods. They tend to bruise easily, but some can be
hand planed to an exquisite surface.

A lot of beginners make crude things from soft pine: bunk beds
and coat-racks and things. Everything has to be a little beafier
in softwoods because they aren’t as strong as hardwoods in
narrow sections… so a coat hook made from pine has to be
pretty clunky compared to one made from oak, for example.

If you know what you’re doing and work carefully some really
nice work can be done in softwoods. You have to be very careful
to not drop your boards because they will dent. Softwoods
are favored for a lot of instrument building because in some
cuts they have a higher stiffness-to-weight ratio than hardwoods.

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