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Forum topic by Nikki posted 09-18-2016 03:21 AM 917 views 0 times favorited 25 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Nikki

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09-18-2016 03:21 AM

TODAY I finally got this Scrollsaw with the stand. It’s a nice little saw but I’d like to use this indoors. I do not want tiny dust particles floating around my house. Would something like this be sufficient if I took off the blow tube and rigged up something underneath the table? I’ve seen DIY modifications that can easily be made and apparently this one isn’t too loud.

http://www.busybeetools.com/products/dust-collector-1hp-570cfm-1-mic-bag-csa-ct053.html

Then I’m going to get one of these Wen portable dust collectors to hang from the ceiling.

http://m.homedepot.com/p/WEN-3-Speed-Remote-Controlled-Air-Filtration-System-3410/205465910

Any suggestions or comments regarding this topic?


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TheFridge

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#1 posted 09-18-2016 04:11 AM

Upgrade the filter bag and I think your set.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#2 posted 09-18-2016 11:21 AM

I have a scroll saw and have a different solution. Dust collection is best done as possible to the source.

I am using a HEPA rated vac which is rated for continuous duty. It is connected to the top and bottom of the scroll saw with 2” PVC pipe. On top, the PVC is connected to Loc Line which allows me to get it close to the blade area. Underneath the table, I collect from just below the blade.

I have a dust collector but the shop vac work best for the scroll saw.

A dust collector gives you high volume at lower suction than a vacuum. My guess is the dust collector is 500 cfm max at 6” of water suction. A shop vac is around 125 cfm and 50-75” of water suction.

The air filter probably a good idea.

I will try to find pics later on.

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Nikki

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#3 posted 09-18-2016 04:32 PM


I have a scroll saw and have a different solution. Dust collection is best done as possible to the source.

I am using a HEPA rated vac which is rated for continuous duty. It is connected to the top and bottom of the scroll saw with 2” PVC pipe. On top, the PVC is connected to Loc Line which allows me to get it close to the blade area. Underneath the table, I collect from just below the blade.

I have a dust collector but the shop vac work best for the scroll saw.

A dust collector gives you high volume at lower suction than a vacuum. My guess is the dust collector is 500 cfm max at 6” of water suction. A shop vac is around 125 cfm and 50-75” of water suction.

The air filter probably a good idea.

I will try to find pics later on.

- Redoak49


That’s great info. Thanks a lot.
I’ve also considered the dust deputy connected with a shop vac to get the cyclone effect but shop vacs are also very loud. I am trying to find effective dust collection that’s a bit quieter.
I know it won’t be on for long but those shop vacs have a high pitched sound to them. It goes right through me.
I will be wearing a dust mask as well.

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Nikki

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#4 posted 09-18-2016 04:35 PM


Upgrade the filter bag and I think your set.

- TheFridge


Ok. That could be done thanks and I’ll check into it.

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bondogaposis

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#5 posted 09-18-2016 04:53 PM

That dust collector for a single tool will have enough power to suck your shorts off. Do like the Fridge suggests and try to get a better filter, you should be able to get it down to .5 micron filtration.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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Nikki

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#6 posted 09-18-2016 06:54 PM



That dust collector for a single tool will have enough power to suck your shorts off. Do like the Fridge suggests and try to get a better filter, you should be able to get it down to .5 micron filtration.

- bondogaposis


That’s what I’ll do then. Right now I have the one above that one , still in the box, and while its ago 30% more powerful, it’s about 100% louder. It’s a bit of overkill.
Any left over air born dust , the WEN will pick up.
That’s perfect thanks. I’ll take this back tomorrow and get the other model.
Thanks buddy. :D

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Redoak49

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#7 posted 09-18-2016 07:46 PM

The interesting issue is how to connect a dust collector to the scroll saw. You have a 4” hose….what do you do with it. It will likely suck the projects right off the scroll saw.

Whatever pickup you use, you will need to put some screen with 1/4” screen on it to keep pieces from going in it.

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Nikki

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#8 posted 09-18-2016 07:59 PM



The interesting issue is how to connect a dust collector to the scroll saw. You have a 4” hose….what do you do with it. It will likely suck the projects right off the scroll saw.

Whatever pickup you use, you will need to put some screen with 1/4” screen on it to keep pieces from going in it.

- Redoak49

I would use one of these that attaches underneath the table. It has an exact size circular piece with 2 holes in it and busy bee has hose adapters
http://www.bigfootproducts.ca/DCS.html

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Nikki

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#9 posted 09-18-2016 08:07 PM



I have a scroll saw and have a different solution. Dust collection is best done as possible to the source.

I am using a HEPA rated vac which is rated for continuous duty. It is connected to the top and bottom of the scroll saw with 2” PVC pipe. On top, the PVC is connected to Loc Line which allows me to get it close to the blade area. Underneath the table, I collect from just below the blade.

I have a dust collector but the shop vac work best for the scroll saw.

A dust collector gives you high volume at lower suction than a vacuum. My guess is the dust collector is 500 cfm max at 6” of water suction. A shop vac is around 125 cfm and 50-75” of water suction.

The air filter probably a good idea.

I will try to find pics later on.

- Redoak49


Oddly enough when I posted my question on a Scrollsaw only website most agree with your method. I’ve have to find the thread. It’s actually quite brilliant

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Nikki

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#10 posted 09-18-2016 08:14 PM

I have a scroll saw and have a different solution. Dust collection is best done as possible to the source.

I am using a HEPA rated vac which is rated for continuous duty. It is connected to the top and bottom of the scroll saw with 2” PVC pipe. On top, the PVC is connected to Loc Line which allows me to get it close to the blade area. Underneath the table, I collect from just below the blade.

I have a dust collector but the shop vac work best for the scroll saw.

A dust collector gives you high volume at lower suction than a vacuum. My guess is the dust collector is 500 cfm max at 6” of water suction. A shop vac is around 125 cfm and 50-75” of water suction.

The air filter probably a good idea.

I will try to find pics later on.

-*

Oddly enough when I posted my question on a Scrollsaw only website most agree with your method. I ve have to find the thread. It s actually quite brilliant
Here’s the link :

https://forum.scrollsawer.com/forum/scroll-saw/general-scroll-saw/45170-dust-collection-for-hegner-18vs
- Nikki

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Nikki

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#11 posted 09-18-2016 08:19 PM

Sorry about that. I messed up that entire post.
Here is a thread about using a shop vac connected to PVC piping towards the top and the bottom.
It does look quite effective but I don’t have $600 for a shop vac.

https://forum.scrollsawer.com/forum/scroll-saw/general-scroll-saw/45170-dust-collection-for-hegner-18vs

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Redoak49

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#12 posted 09-18-2016 08:33 PM

You could use Ridgid shop vac from HomeDepot and add a HEPA filter.

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Nikki

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#13 posted 09-18-2016 10:04 PM


You could use Ridgid shop vac from HomeDepot and add a HEPA filter.

- Redoak49


Yeah! And I happen to have a Ridgid shop vac.
Would I be able to use one of those dust deputy cyclone things to it.
Hang on and I’ll add a link.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,42401&p=69841

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Jim Finn

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#14 posted 09-19-2016 01:30 AM

I killed three shop vacs using them on a scroll saw. One was a new Ridged. Most Shop vacs are not rated to run all that long.

-- "You may have your PHD but I have my GED and my DD 214"

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Redoak49

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#15 posted 09-19-2016 01:42 AM

It all depends on how much you use the vac and for how long. Some like Jim Finn do a lot of cutting for selling at various venues and would wear out saws and vacs.

There are a lot of people who use a Ridgid vac with dust deputy successfully in their shops. If you run, you should be aware of the potential issues.

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