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wseand

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1498 days ago

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I am not sure how to create a dowel from 3/4 square stock. I want to put a 3/8 dowel on the ends of square stock about 1/2” to 3/4” in length. I am not sure exactly how to explain it so I attached pics. I need to be able to secure it to the bookcase but I want it to be flush. I hope I have explained it well enough. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. I had thought about just drilling a hole and putting a dowel in, but i was trying to be a bit more creative.

This is what I am looking for:
Dowel

This is what it is being used for:
Bookcase

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy


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a1Jim

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#1 posted 1498 days ago

It’s a little hard to see how is being used in that size photo but usually you make tenons like that whit a tenon cutter or turn it on a lathe or on a router table with a round over router bit.

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Peter Oxley

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#2 posted 1498 days ago

A round-over router bit won’t give you square shoulders. If you have a lathe that will handle the part, that’s probably the easiest way – turn the shoulder with parting tool. Or you could build a jig like this for your router table.

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wseand

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#3 posted 1498 days ago

Jim does this help. I am trying to find away to attach them. 3/4” square stock. Any ideas would help doesn’t necessarily need to be doweled. My problem is I get a design in my head than try to build it, learning as I go.

Bookcase

3/4 stock

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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childress

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#4 posted 1498 days ago

You can do it on the table saw. This was in a magazine a few months back, but can’t remember which one right now. You basically make some perfectly square pieces out of plywood (2”- 4” depending on how thick the leg is) and drill a hole in them just big enough so the square leg will fit snugly in the hole. Put 3 or 4 of these down the leg and lay it perpendicular to the blade (maybe on your crosscut sled) and with a dado blade, set the height and as you spin the leg in the holes, you can create what it is you want.

hope I explained good enough…

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#5 posted 1498 days ago

That is what I was thinking, to make a jig to hold the square stock and spin it on my table saw. The circles sound like fast easy jigs to do the job ;-)

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wseand

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#6 posted 1498 days ago

You explained it perfectly, Thanks much childress/tmax, a lot better than I asked it. I will try it out tomorrow.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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bayspt

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#7 posted 1498 days ago

Why not just Mortice and Tenon? If it is round, the piece will spin untill the glue sets. Or maybe I don’t understand the application

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wseand

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#8 posted 1498 days ago

Jimmy, I will try the mortise and tenon as well, it is only 3/4” inch stock though so I wasn’t sure if I could make a mortise and tenon 1/4” x 3/4”, I mean if I am capable.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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David Kirtley

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#9 posted 1498 days ago

Heh, There is actually a old tool for that.

Woods Adjustable Tenoner

or a rounder plane

and I just saw somewhere where someone had posted doing it with a router (can’t find the pic)

They drilled a hole in a block of wood and then intersected it from the other direction with another hole. Insert router bit and as you feed the stock in, turn it and it gets cut down with the router.

The same principle as the Beal Threading Tool.

Lots of other stuff like spoke pointers as well. Look up wheelwright stuff.

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Chiefk

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#10 posted 1498 days ago

I have made joints like that. I used a forstner bit and use a dowel as a loose tenon. I made a simple drill guide that allowed me to center the bit into the end of the rail. This worked well for me. pkennedy

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CharlieM1958

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#11 posted 1498 days ago

Of course there is always the option of drilling a hole in the end of the stock and gluing in a dowel pin. It would be just as strong as actually cutting the stock down to a dowel end.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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swirt

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#12 posted 1498 days ago

The other name for the first tool David lists above is “Hollow Auger” You can pick them up on ebay for ~$25 though most of them will have the square shank for use in a brace, which is ideal anyway, you don’t wont to spin them too fast, but you need the torque that only a brace offers.

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Gregn

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#13 posted 1492 days ago

What Childress said is pretty much easy to do and rotate the stock. I also seen where a guy used a piece of PVC that the stock fit into and clamped the PVC to his miter gauge, then rotated the stock till it was round on the end.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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