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Forum topic by GVC66 posted 09-08-2016 03:17 PM 315 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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09-08-2016 03:17 PM

Topic tags/keywords: grizzly go690 incra cast iron excalibur router lift ts-ls

Hello World,

I am looking for some advice from the more experienced woodworkers here. I have a Grizzly G0690 Cabinet saw that I would like to outfit with an Incra system (TS-LS) and router table with all the joinery Bells and Whistles. However I like the idea of a cast Iron top for the router table, Oh, and the whole thing needs to be mobile (In my Garage everything needs wheels). Since the saw is a left tilt the router needs to be on the right and that rules out the Bench Dog. I think I would need the Excalibur to do this setup but with a google search I am not sure this will all fit together. I think the rails for the Incra only join to the main top of the saw which does not support the router wing that much.

I can be convinced otherwise and I am looking for input. The goal is ultimately to have the best and most flexible joinery workstation at the center of my shop. I have an 8 inch spiral bit jointer coming in from Grizzly also so jointing isn’t the priority.

Also looking for a Router lift system.

I am also worried about the trade off between mobility and stability. I think anything would need to have folding legs… Help!!

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#1 posted 09-08-2016 03:33 PM

What kind of joinery? If its M/T a power mortiser is the best option IMO.

I’ve never seen the value in guys spending > $6-800 (or more) for a fence and lift, and that doesn’t even include another $300 for a router.

I’d be looking at a shaper if I did that much router work.

So yeah, I would be paralyzed, too. ;-)

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#2 posted 09-08-2016 04:39 PM

I’m leaning towards this router table

Plus this router

The triton router has a built-lift mechanism and comes with a handle to adjust from the top of the table. the collet also locks when extended above the table. You only need one wrench (and one hand) to change bits.

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#3 posted 09-08-2016 04:49 PM

I have a Grizzly G0715P with the Incra & a 3-1/2 hp Milwaukee plunge router. No router lift needed since the normal router depth knob works well. It is an outstanding setup.


-- Madmark -

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#4 posted 09-08-2016 05:33 PM

Wow, that was quick! Thanks for the responses so far. I have looked at going the shaper route but I am not running production and will likely be using the table for a host of different projects so.. the cutters, shaper, space loss, and lack of flexibility was what doomed the shaper in my hobby shop. ( I am not even going to have the space for the LS52TS, I will need the LS32TS. )

I am leaning toward the following from Incra:
Mastr Lift II
Clean sweep
Wonder Fence
Shop Stop
Right angle fixture

and the following from Excalibur (aka General):
40-070EK Cast Iron Table (Bench or Table Saw Wing) Kit (looks like the plate and fence are gravy on the kit at 399)

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#5 posted 09-08-2016 06:03 PM

You never said what type of router that you’ll be using.

If I was starting from scratch, I would consider the Triton TRA001. With it, you wouldn’t need a router lift.

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#6 posted 09-08-2016 06:08 PM

01ntrain, That is interesting, I think that may be the same one rentvent was looking at. I have a couple P&C routers but nothing 3.25 horse or better. I’ll look into it. Thanks!

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#7 posted 09-09-2016 01:24 PM

I started out small, then upgraded with add-ons. On it is an Exaktor sliding table, Mule 50” fence system, an overhead DC/Guard from PSI, and a Incra 1000HD. Unless my Contractor TS dies its unlikely I’d upgrade any more. As it seems to handle most everything and quick frankly is more accurate than my current skill level.

The TS-LS looks good but seems a bit complicated to operate from my perspective. Not owning one take my advice on its operation with a grain of salt.

I’ve a Mast Lift II R with a PC 3.25hp router and a Woodpecker SuperFence with microadjuster. Just finishing building out the cabinet. This is replacing a Craftsman Router Table and Prof Router 2Hp. Expect this will last a lifetime. Like the easy setup with a raiser. I didn’t see the need for a clean sweep as I was building a cabinet—loosely based upon Kreg cabinet plans—that included a dust collection section as well as storage for bits and accessories.

-- bkseitz, Washington "if everything is going well, you've obviously overlooked something"

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