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Bob

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08-31-2016 11:26 AM

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Hello Everyone, this was my best guess for which topic to post my question under I have just acquired this antique workbench. It sits on the legs (is not attached) using dowels to align it o the base. The entire bench is “loose” all boards, even the work surface, flex and move. I would really like to use this bench. I have no idea where to start. should I remove the rods and re-glue? Or, just attempt to tighten the bolts. If anyone has a suggestion for reading material or can point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it. I have been searching the internet for help and came across your site and joined immediately. Thanks for the help, in advance.

Bob

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rwe2156

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#1 posted 08-31-2016 12:04 PM

I’ve never seen a bench top NOT glued together. So yes, I would start with the top by gluing the top up Its possible it was originally glued and it failed, especially if it was hide glue and got exposed to heat or moisture.

I would use the rods as clamps but after that, they aren’t needed.

You may want to attach the top to the base with lag bolts or such. Depends, you may not need to.

Same thing with the base.

Nice antique bench! Good find.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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dbray45

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#2 posted 08-31-2016 12:13 PM

That is a very old bench – seriously cool. It may not have been glued, if it was, it was probably hide glue.

I would tighten the bolts and see where you go from there.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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onoitsmatt

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#3 posted 08-31-2016 02:51 PM

Awesome bench. Nice find! I think you are doing the right thing by doing the research before starting. Gluing is a good odea but gluing it up wrong or poorly would be a difficult mistake to undo. Try to be patient (which can be difficult when you are itchy to start using it ).

Dbray may be right to just tighten it up for now while you figure out the next move.

-- Matt - Phoenix, AZ

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#4 posted 08-31-2016 03:05 PM

I would bet it was never glued. If it had been glued with hide glue it would still be one very solid piece. It doesn’t simply fail when exposed to moisture or heat. You would almost need to boil that kind of glue joint to make it fail.

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#5 posted 08-31-2016 03:44 PM

I think it is very possible that it was never glued up. Looking at the top especially second picture. I don’t think it was glued. I would tighten everything up and see what happens. A lot of benches were located on the legs with dowels. The weight of the bench top held it in place. This the craftsman to disassemble and move the bench easily sometimes from job site to job site.

You could take the rods out and check for glue residue. I’m with shipwright hide glue doesn’t just fail because of moisture it takes heat and moisture..

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#6 posted 08-31-2016 04:05 PM

I have one just like this.

Tighten everything up as best you can, with the bolts as located. The base will stabilize quite a bit, but adding glue there will be a big improvement. I think the top resting in dowels is fine; mine does, it’s not an issue. After all, it’s original that way and all the use it’s gotten thusfar speaks to it being an effective construct.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#7 posted 08-31-2016 04:37 PM

Very nice bench. Would have a fine spot in my shop, enjoy that thing.

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dbray45

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#8 posted 08-31-2016 07:27 PM

If the pieces are 2” thick or better, Paul is correct, there is no glue. Wasn’t thinking of the total thickness.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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Bob

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#9 posted 09-01-2016 01:59 AM

Thank you all very much! I will be starting by some disassembly and investigation. The top is 2.5” and I noticed today there were some attempts at repair or maintenance. Nothing destructive but, someone has pre-drilled and installed some screws and nailed some areas that should not be. Should be simple to address those issues. I will be asking some more questions as I need to address other issues. It is really a great help having all the replies I got to my query! Gives me a lot of confidence going forward. I only looked at the construction briefly, I was more concerned with how complete it was when I picked it up. There are dado grooves on the top and bottom, I am assuming there was a sliding board with dowel holes (I do not know the correct term). The vises both work but could use some attention. One seems to be hanging lower than it should. Thanks Again, I really appreciated it!

BC

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BurlyBob

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#10 posted 09-01-2016 02:03 AM

That old bench has some great character. It’ll be a great friend to you over the years I’m sure.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#11 posted 09-01-2016 02:06 AM

Sliding deadman.

Keep us posted!

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#12 posted 09-01-2016 11:45 AM

Beautiful! Please don’t sand all the patina out of it. I’ve cleaned a couple of those up just with 0000 steel wool dipped in liquid stripper – it takes off the grunge but leaves the age and any random paint splatters or rings from old cans etc that you want to keep for posterity sake if you don’t work it too hard. Do an area, wipe it off with a rag and move on. Enjoy it.

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Bob

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#13 posted 09-02-2016 01:49 AM

Thanks again everyone, for those interested the bench is 2.5” thick, thanks for the “sliding deadman” (I probably should have figured that out on my own :) and I would not dream of sanding the age off of it! Just want to get it back to solid and have it functioning properly and smoothly again. And, I will take your suggestion of 0000 steel wool and stripper. Will post as I progress. Thanks again!

-- BC67 SFD

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BurlyBob

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#14 posted 09-02-2016 01:53 AM

Please Bob. Show us the final result that you are satisfied with! I want to know! I need to know. I love those old world benches. I want to build one and am studying all I can find.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#15 posted 09-04-2016 07:16 AM

Hey, bob.

Here’s a familiar sight for you…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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