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08-28-2016 06:19 PM

Hey guys I’m moving from a small 9.5’ x 11.5’ shed shop to a smaller 8’x10’ garage shop. The new space is smaller but I can move things out to the driveway easier.

Looking for layout advice as up to this point I’ve just been buying tools and haven’t tried to optimize the layout so this will be a good chance for that.

The three big tools that I could see adding way off in the future would be joiner, dust collector, miter saw. But I’d probably wait till I had a bigger space for those.

Current shop


Future shop

Proposed layout


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#1 posted 08-28-2016 06:54 PM

Looks good on paper, from the pics I have to suggest you take a deep look at your cut off’s and decide what makes a piece too small or useless to stay in the shop. Depending on the work you do most often this can vary but for me if it’s less that a foot long it pretty much goes straight to the fire pit bucket, or if it’s some sort of 2×4 cutoff. I got quite a bit of cluttered storage space back by getting rid of all the small pieces I thought would be of use some day in the future but I generally always wind up cutting exactly what i need rather than adjusting the build to fit some cutoffs. What does the overhead space look like, do you have open rafters to store lumber? I’ve got 12’ ceilings in my shop and get lots of storage in the overhead, especially in the space above the roll up door, of course, Murphy’s law generally has me putting the door up and down when I need something from those shelves. Future equipment, a good sled can usually do anything and everything a miter saw can do, since you’ve got the BS I would be looking at jointers and lunchbox planers and the dust collection, it’s a great help when you can control the sizes of the wood yourself.

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#2 posted 08-28-2016 07:34 PM



Looks good on paper, from the pics I have to suggest you take a deep look at your cut off s and decide what makes a piece too small or useless to stay in the shop. Depending on the work you do most often this can vary but for me if it s less that a foot long it pretty much goes straight to the fire pit bucket, or if it s some sort of 2×4 cutoff. I got quite a bit of cluttered storage space back by getting rid of all the small pieces I thought would be of use some day in the future but I generally always wind up cutting exactly what i need rather than adjusting the build to fit some cutoffs. What does the overhead space look like, do you have open rafters to store lumber? I ve got 12 ceilings in my shop and get lots of storage in the overhead, especially in the space above the roll up door, of course, Murphy s law generally has me putting the door up and down when I need something from those shelves. Future equipment, a good sled can usually do anything and everything a miter saw can do, since you ve got the BS I would be looking at jointers and lunchbox planers and the dust collection, it s a great help when you can control the sizes of the wood yourself.

- ChefHDAN

Thanks for the thoughts yeah I probably bang onto to small of pieces to long but end grabbing random pieces making dowels, splines, toggles, spoons ect but maybe it’s not worth the extra space.

I do have some rafter space. Might have to see what I can do with it. I was considering storing lumber vertically instead of the horizontal rack.

What’s bs? I’ve got a dewalt planer that’s under the table saw and do have a sled setup which feels like nicer cuts then the chop saw anyways. But yeah jointer would probably be the next large tool after some smaller hand power tools like router and domino

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#3 posted 08-28-2016 07:50 PM

I need to be able to store a few sheets of plywood (unless you guys think it’s fine to store outside?)


Horizontal like this but without the front cover


Maybe vertical


Similar to my current setup

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#4 posted 08-28-2016 07:58 PM

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#5 posted 08-28-2016 09:36 PM

I tell you I like the first picture a lot …...... but with no front on there ….....so you would be able to store shorter wood in there also ….. the vertical takes away from floor space
when working with a small shop you must only hang wall cabinets …. try keep floor space for walking and tools

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#6 posted 08-28-2016 10:37 PM

I like the first too. everything in a small shop needs casters to roll out of the way,and have at least dual purpose.like that rack in the first picture.You could hang tools on the pegboard on the front.

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#7 posted 08-28-2016 11:12 PM



I like the first too. everything in a small shop needs casters to roll out of the way,and have at least dual purpose.like that rack in the first picture.You could hang tools on the pegboard on the front.

- daddywoofdawg


I tell you I like the first picture a lot …...... but with no front on there ….....so you would be able to store shorter wood in there also ….. the vertical takes away from floor space
when working with a small shop you must only hang wall cabinets …. try keep floor space for walking and tools

- GR8HUNTER

I’m thinking I might do a rack to slide plywood in and then a separate unit on wheels with horizontal wood rack but the height will double as my outfeed table for the table saw

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#8 posted 08-30-2016 06:54 PM

Trees, by BS I meant band saw, I mostly use mine for resaw, and then go to the planer to set my thicknesses. I like the thought of the bench in the top picture, but again it comes down to how you work & buy your lumber. I buy my sheet goods as needed and don’t really store any sheets larger than 2’x4’ but I do wind up with a fair bit of 4/4 which I store horizontally using shelving standards & brackets. I keep 2 shelves up high for storing odd items and the lower part of the 4’ standards have 3 layers of wood storage, so it’s off the floor and I can move my tools around on the mobile bases. I’ve got a 2 car garage with TS, BS, CMS, spindle & belt sanding station, 2hp DC, planer, jointer, & 2 work benches, and when I have to I can still also get 2 cars into the garage, (Note: I did have to buy my wife a smaller car) Although some folks will poo poo them I get a lot of use out of old Black & Decker Workmates I find on CL for about $20 each, take a look at the Workmate of Dreams thread They do lots for me whether on a furniture dolly or holding my outfeed table.

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#9 posted 08-30-2016 07:28 PM

if the horizontal storage is 8 feet long, and the shop is only 10 feet long, you would have to open the garage door to add or remove any piece of wood that is longer than 2-3 feet.

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