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Forum topic by FlushTrimBit posted 08-25-2016 03:26 AM 394 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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FlushTrimBit

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08-25-2016 03:26 AM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw r4512 help

Does this service exist: I’m looking to hire somebody to come to my garage and set up my Rigid r4512 properly. I’m in the Columbus, OH area.

I just started woodworking at the beginning of this summer, have been trying my best with the hobby, and I feel like I’ve set up my equipment wrong. I spent 6 hours setting up the tablesaw. Since then, I’ve added Jay Bates’ router lift & table into the extension wing. The router table is pulling the table down so it’s no longer flush with the table. I’m trying to do it all alone and I’m just stabbing at it, watching YouTube set up video after YouTube setup video, making minor adjustments which aren’t helping. I’m worried that the more I mess with it, I’m just going to strip screws and ruin threads.

I know my skills will take time to develop. I’m frustrated that I feel like I’m hamstringing myself with misconfigured tools. I’ve slaved for about 20 hours on a keepsake box (http://fixthisbuildthat.com/make-a-simple-diy-jewelry-box-plans/) out of Maple and Walnut. This is my 2nd attempt. While I see improvements over my first box, I still think it’s terrible looking. And then I see spectacular projects like http://lumberjocks.com/projects/263714 and I’m dejected that my tools suck and I suck. My walnut and maple box: http://imgur.com/a/2JwrK. I haven’t finished it yet, obviously. I put tape on it so I’d remember orientation of the pieces. I don’t like the speckles on the top, the front face has that weird color change, the miters splines are short, and the cut dividing the top/bottom isn’t crisp.

Sorry for the sad rant. I just want some help to make sure my equipment is properly aligned, giving me the best possible chance to produce items that are somewhat as good as my imagination when I embark on the project.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: Thanks for all the positive feedback. I’m going to take y’all’s advice to take the router off the table and start over to adjust it. I hadn’t thought about how much of a learning experience it could be for me to learn about the table saw rather than just get it fixed. And I can practice new skills by building a separate router stand! Rick – I’m most definitely a novice. I’m number one to blame for end product quality.

That said, here are the boxes (sanded to 320 before being glued) with a couple coats of Danish Oil on them. I love how smooth they are. They’re resting for a few days before getting spray lacquer. Maple with either Walnut Purpleheart. http://imgur.com/a/baq1f

EDIT 2: Thanks again for the feedback. I pulled off the router table and was able to quickly square up the table & fence. I ripped a 3’ piece of 3/4 plywood against the fence with the stock full kerf blade and the variation of width was less than .01”. I’m building a new cross cut sled, based on Nick Ferry's design, taking my time on all the cuts and measuring precisely.


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MrUnix

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#1 posted 08-25-2016 03:37 AM

Any suggestions?
- FlushTrimBit

Practice, practice, practice… and then practice some more. The only way you can become proficient is to get out there and do stuff, learn from your mistakes, and use those lessons to improve on your next project.

As for machine setup… I would suggest you stick with it. It will give you a better understanding of the machine, how it works, what is required to keep it in good shape, and the ability to spot trouble (and fix it) before it becomes worse. Hiring it out and you will always and forever be at the mercy of someone else to make those determinations for you.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#2 posted 08-25-2016 12:12 PM

Learning takes time. Don’t focus on the few errors you may have made on a project, marvel in all of the things you did correctly. Your next project will go more smoothly.

If you do have someone come to your home to setup your tools be sure they are there to teach you. Setting up the tool for you will not be of any long term help.

The speckled edge is because of the grain orientation on the board. I would guess by the picture that the boards are very flatsawn, the grain lines on tje endgrain are nearly parallel to the face of the board. Over time you will learn to pick boards based on the look you desire.

BTW. I think your box looks good.

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ScottM

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#3 posted 08-25-2016 12:19 PM

Pull the router table off of the saw then go through all of the setup per the manual and get all of that right first. I haven’t seen that table and lift, but maybe your saw just isn’t designed for that kind of weight. I looked and the picture of your box and I think it looks pretty good. As Brad said ^^, it will take time to figure out the best ways, for you, on how to do things. Things will get better and easier over time.

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Aj2

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#4 posted 08-25-2016 09:44 PM

I’m glad others gave some solid advise.I saw your post last night and it reminded me of my first workshop.
There wasn’t one square corner on anything.My tool box was very basic.Skillsaw,jigsaw,hand drill,belt sander.Wornout chisels.Wornout oil stone.
No money for wood,glue or finish.
Oh god how I miss those days.
My advise is to stop watching Utube videos on how to do things.Look for inspiration only.
Make a simple project that you can master.
Even a box with nails in the corners.Can be very rewarding.
Measure your self to yourself.
Don’t get big time so fast stay small.

Aj

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Quikenuff

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#5 posted 08-26-2016 03:26 AM

Start with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTwweKrjvTM Then either true it or get new one. I’ve even had to true Starrett squares myself, it’s not a big deal.

Then check your blade parallelism with the miter slot like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxRSarTJLMU
Your adjustment procedure will differ from this so follow the instructions in the manual to adjust as necessary.

No-one and I mean no-one that you would hire will put as much time or effort into adjusting or setting up your tools as you will.

By the way I could easily put 20 hours into a box like you built, probably more. As other have said, it takes time and practice and to piggy back off of what Aj2 said, measure your next project against your last not against someone on youtube or from the project threads… They only show you the good side anyway. ;P

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Rick M

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#6 posted 08-26-2016 03:50 AM

You probably need to slow down and take it one step at a time, or maybe get pissed off. Sometimes I get pissed and decide I will either fix the effin thing or break it in half and it usually relents. It’s amazing how often I’ve labored over something only to get pissed and fix it in a minute.

As for making boxes or anything else. there is a saying, a poor workman blames his tools.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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