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juniorjock

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1544 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: big oil company gulf disaster

Maybe I missed it, but I don’t recall seeing anything on here about the oil spill in the Gulf. Surely you guys have something to say about this. As for me, I’m just shaking my head. The big oil company has failed us…..... AND, our federal government has failed us. Any thoughts?


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widdle

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#1 posted 1544 days ago

I do feel guily that im not down there with my shovels,bag of rags SAWDUST.anything fricken old t shirts..I would love to hear obama ask for help from his followers like when he was running for office…we should be shoulder to shoulder waiting and cleaning up oil and wildlife as it comes ashore.and offshore..Surfing has been my church for 25 years and could not imagine the anxiety of waiting for the oil to come ashore..horrifying..The animals birds fish etc etc ..Are people should be all hands on deck..This is way bigger than government and business put that aside for know.Earth day is every day. I would be very interested in helping ..physically ,,financialy have not heard a peep how..

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DrewM

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#2 posted 1544 days ago

Widdle I agree with you 100%. Just wish I knew how to help.

-- Drew, Delaware

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hazbro

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#3 posted 1544 days ago

De-regulation is a bitch. Both parties are dependent upon corporate monies and this is USA inc. in action. The companies that saw short term gains in “outsourcing” jobs are now dealing with the reality of having “outsourced” all the customers. But, some CEO’s picked up some sweet bonuses selling the country down the river for short term stock rallies. Now we are starting from ground zero.

American innovation is on call once again.

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woodman71

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#4 posted 1544 days ago

I agree to its time to clean up government as well as this oil spill.

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a1Jim

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#5 posted 1544 days ago

Is there a solution? Maybe for future oil leaks but only after a long hall on this one.

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widdle

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#6 posted 1544 days ago

Is there any way for us to help?

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rbterhune

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#7 posted 1544 days ago

Sure, I have a few thoughts…I’m a geologist by trade and although mining is my thing I know how things go down in these situations. I’ve seen it, just on a smaller scale.

1. The U.S. needs oil so the government looks the other way as long as it gets what it wants and needs. The MMS failed to do what their primary task is…to regulate the oil industry and permitting. Ridiculous junk science investigations said an environmental impact from a leak would be minimal so they allowed BP, and who knows how many others, to drill without completing studies, without permits, and most importantly, without significant and tested contingency plans for cleaning up a large spill 5000’ below the surface.
2. BP’s oversight of Transocean was apparently non-existent.
3. According to the forman (I think he was a forman) interviewed on 60 minutes, there were MULTIPLE isssues with the blowout preventer that were known in the days before the explosion, yet they were told to push forward…it’s all about production.
4. Yes, the government must rely on the extensive knowledge of BP geologists and engineers to fix the leak, but the government should not have drug its feet with regard to placing the sand berms in the gulf…seems like this will be the best way to prevent contamination of the wetlands…who the hell needs to waste time with a study…it’s obvious it will work better than doing nothing. The berms will be easier to clean and remove int he end.

Sorry for the rant…just seems like the news skips over these viewpoints and realities sometimes.

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#8 posted 1544 days ago

Big money buying politicians = no oversite and short cuts to disaster.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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doordude

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#9 posted 1544 days ago

Just clean up the mess, however long it takes. BP should cough up the money to make fishermen and others that make they’re living around the ocean whole. and in the near time table, not like exxon 20 years later.
also i;d like to see media dog obama for weeks,months, like they did bush during katrina (doubt that would happen)for non performace the past 40 some odd days

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#10 posted 1544 days ago

20 years later, the people who lost all in Alaska divided up less than the CEO of Exxon makes in a year. Justice? There is none :-(

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Rick

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#11 posted 1544 days ago

About a month or so ago I was watching “Rick’s List” on CNN. He interviewed somone? who said this ENTIRE thing could have been prevented. Something called an Acoustic Something or other that could have been installed that would have Immediately done what they have now tried to do and failed. To install this thing would have been around $100,000.00 Dollars.

At the first sign of a problem this Acoustic thing would have, automatically, within a split second, shut everything down and Blown something into the well that would have Blocked any further Flow of oil.

There was a Bill before Congress to make this device MANDATORY on ALL Oil Rigs. BUSH Vetoed the Bill. I guess Him and his Dad and Cheney (Haliburton Industries) felt they weren’t making enough MONEY Fast Enough.

Money? Today on the “Situation Room” they said that USA was spending 6 BILLION DOLLARS A DAY adding to the Nations Deficit of I believe $16 TRILLION DOLLARS! Can anyone here conceive of, or picture those kinds of Dollars???

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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TheDane

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#12 posted 1544 days ago

I thought this was all Bush’s fault!

What does this thread have to do with woodworking?

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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juniorjock

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#13 posted 1544 days ago

Dane – well, as of right now it really doesn’t have a thing to do with woodworking. But, it could have a lot to do with woodworking and everything else before it’s over. Think about it…. for one thing, what if a major hurricane hit the Gulf during this disaster? It could kill millions and millions of trees, wildlife, people, etc. And besides, since this thread is in the Coffee Lounge, I don’t think it HAS to be about woodworking (but, like I said, it is). Thanks for your posts.

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jackass

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#14 posted 1544 days ago

The disaster was completely driven by greed, and taking chances that “it won’t happen to us”, but it did. Thousands of lives have been changed, Businesses ruined and innocent animals killed. BP should be banned for ever drilling another well anywhere in the world. Here in Canada all we can do is sympathize, and we do.
Jack

-- Jack Keefe Shediac NB Canada

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miles125

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#15 posted 1544 days ago

Support the resorts and businesses that are hurting. All my favorite trips to the gulf seem to just involve hanging out in air conditioning and going out to eat anyways. :)

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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