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Forum topic by Imakenicefirewood posted 08-24-2016 05:58 PM 1936 views 0 times favorited 23 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Imakenicefirewood

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08-24-2016 05:58 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question unisaw needs repair tablesaw

I was at a local cabinet shop earlier this week, and saw that he has an old unisaw tucked un the corner with stuff stacked on it. It has a biesemeyer fence, stamped metal base, and he said a 5hp motor. I asked if he would sell me the fence and he said that he would sell me the entire saw for cheap, and to just make him an offer.

I asked what was wrong with it, and he handed me the arbor. He told me that there is a small wobble in the blade and he even put a new one on, and it still has the wobble.

So the question is, how much would you offer for a unisaw that doesn’t work, and will likely need several hundred dollars to get running?

Also, could it be just the arbor, or is the problem deeper than that?


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Loren

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#1 posted 08-24-2016 06:01 PM

$100.

It could need a flange-facing. Woodgears.ca has
an article on how the guy did a diy flange face
job to correct a little wobble.

If the arbor is actually bent that’s a different issue,
but replacements are available.

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#2 posted 08-24-2016 06:11 PM

OWWM Rule No. 1: The seller, standing in front of the machine with access to all sides and in full daylight, will not/cannot describe the machine correctly.

Blade wobble doesn’t mean it has a bent arbor. As Loren points out, it could just need a good facing, or it might be in need of bearings. If it really is the arbor, then figure on another ~$150 for a new one (Sawcenter has them for $139).

Cheers,
Brad

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DrDirt

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#3 posted 08-24-2016 07:10 PM

I would make sure i could run it
Lots of the shop 5hp saws are 3 phase

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#4 posted 08-24-2016 07:34 PM

Yup, DrDirt called it, probably 3 phase. If it has an issue and he said to make an offer I think $100 seems like a good place to start. If nothing else you could pull the fence off & resell it for $100. I wouldn’t want to go higher than $200 but others may be more frisky then I. It could be worth $350 though, I don’t know. I know its worth $500 if it worked good, was rust free & clean.

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Imakenicefirewood

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#5 posted 08-24-2016 10:28 PM

Thanks. I’ll ask about the 3 phase, and maybe make an offer just to get the fence and resell the saw itself. I really don’t have room for two Unisaws.

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TheFridge

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#6 posted 08-25-2016 12:24 AM

300-350$ target. I’d still do up to 500$ for dusty but pretty good shape.

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#7 posted 08-25-2016 01:37 AM

I can’t imagine what would have to happen to actually bend the arbor. It’s likely something else….bearings, belts, etc., but ya never know. If it’s single phase and in good shape, I’d go upwards of $500. ..it really depends on what condition it’s in.

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DirtyMike

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#8 posted 08-25-2016 02:55 AM

Could tilting the blade with a zero clearance insert bend the arbor? I have bent a blade like that thinking my hand wheel was just hard to turn.

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Imakenicefirewood

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#9 posted 08-25-2016 08:38 PM

He also told me that he kept using the saw when it needed new bearings until he could get the new ones. This resulted in it getting pretty hot and possibly warping the arbor. I’m not sure. I’ll stop by again next week and ask more about it.

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DirtyMike

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#10 posted 08-25-2016 08:48 PM

If its 3 phase i would pass on it, you never know you be getting a deal or in over your head.

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#11 posted 08-25-2016 08:52 PM



If its 3 phase i would pass on it, you never know you be getting a deal or in over your head.

- DirtyMike

I woudn’t. IF you have 220 1 Phase, a VFD is pretty darn cheap and thanks to the above opinion, can get you saw really cheap! I got a great PM66 for $600 because it was 3 Phase, compared to ~$1200-$1500 being the going rate in the area.

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Clarkie

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#12 posted 08-25-2016 10:21 PM

Save yourself a lot of heartache and pain and go buy the fence you need. There is a good reason why he hasn’t fixed the saw.

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GR8HUNTER

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#13 posted 08-25-2016 11:52 PM



Yup, DrDirt called it, probably 3 phase. If it has an issue and he said to make an offer I think $100 seems like a good place to start. If nothing else you could pull the fence off & resell it for $100. I wouldn t want to go higher than $200 but others may be more frisky then I. It could be worth $350 though, I don t know. I know its worth $500 if it worked good, was rust free & clean.

- MikesProjects

I would start at $100 go up from there but max at $300

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TheFridge

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#14 posted 08-26-2016 12:46 AM

Hell. Buy it just for the fence, put your old one on it, change some bearings and resell it. Unless the bearing spun I doubt there is any lasting damage.

Plus 3 ph motors are damn near bullet proof compared to single phase.

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Imakenicefirewood

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#15 posted 08-31-2016 04:35 PM

I went and looked at the saw again and looked up the serial number. Turns out it is a 1980 model with a 2hp single phase motor. It hasn’t run in quite some time, 6-8 years, and is just collecting dust. I offered $100, and he said that he was closer to $500. We talked for a little while about what it might take to get it running, and he started to see why my offer was so low. I did not get the saw, but who knows what the future may hold. At least now he knows I’m interested in it.

I ended up getting a little bit of hardwood and a 1/2” sheet of pine ply to make a few flat panel cabinet doors for my outfeed table, and we parted ways.

I was glad I didn’t offend him with the low offer, because he is a great supplier for me. A lot cheaper than the hardware stores…I get it for barely above his cost. Job number one: keep the supplier happy.

Thanks for all of the input and help. If anything happens in the future, I’ll fill you in.

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