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06-04-2010 04:10 PM

Topic tags/keywords: humor

Just when you thought it was safe to venture back into the discussion forums….
Though there are a few testy LJs here, I could write a book about how my fellow woodworkers in real shops are the most difficult co-workers of all. Imagine, for example, in one shop I worked in: I had an old-school B&D router, one of the all metal ones, and I cherished it. One of the other benchmen came over and asked to borrow it. He returned it with a severely bent base, back to my cabinet when I wasn’t looking. When I discovered it, he denied having wrecked it. A few days later, I learned that his similar B&D had fallen off a saw horse. He swapped bases with mine, hoping I’d not notice. Then, there was the time in that same shop when I was preparing a series of teller windows for a bank. The edge had a gentle scroll. I had laid it out on sacrificial MDF on the floor, with the pattern in place as I applied the oak moulding, with perhaps 40 parallel jaw clamps. I finished the setup just before lunch, and when I returned, all 40 clamps were stacked up on somebody else’s bench. My moldings were ruined. The excuse? “Oh, I thought your glue was dry” If I had to make a list of every confrontation I’ve had with my co-workers, it would make the LJ site Tame in comparison.
Have you noticed that woodworkers are less likely to get along than in other industrial trade disciplines? Have you got some battle scars inflicted on you by your woodworking co-workers? Share them here!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!


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#1 posted 06-04-2010 04:23 PM

My last “real” job was in advertising. Woodworking and the construction industry have their share of strife and confrontation, but I have found them to be quite friendly compared to the advertising world.

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#2 posted 06-04-2010 04:25 PM

i think that these occur for several reasons, one your dealing with another persons creativity…wood working can become one sided really quick, they have there way and might not be open to change…and the other is your dealing with tools…everyone like to be using the best tools…so the guy who took your router base…he wasn’t honest, but he wanted his tools to be right…so to me there are several dynamics involved..with wood working comes passion…and you get too much of that in one room..there is going to be heads bumping…just a few of my reasoning of at least why these event’s happen…i personally like to work in my shop alone, with no others wanting to use any of my tools…it works better that way…when it comes to tools…ideally..borrowing someone’s tools..isn’t a good idea…i didn’t give a personal story , because i haven’t had any of those types of problems…i guess Ive been lucky to not work in a large shop where these situations will happen…

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#3 posted 06-04-2010 04:37 PM

Thanks, guys! Peter: I’m sure there’s lots of bloodshed in the advertising world, and I hadn’t thought of the cut-throat nature of that line of work! Grizz: You did hit the nail on the head, it indeed seemed like the persons most likely to give you grief in large woodworking shops were the ones who had ‘passion’...and somehow therefore felt no constraints toward those they felt were ‘lesser’ employess. And, yeah, I too absolutely freak whenever somebody ever dares ask to borrow my tools….MINE!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#4 posted 06-04-2010 04:42 PM

I’ve never worked for anyone in a shop environment.

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#5 posted 06-04-2010 05:04 PM

My neighbour barrowed a hand saw from me and I notice that it was for his young boy building something so I just went over and took it back, another time a few years after the same guy wanted to drill a Jeep bumper to install a winch so he came over to get my brand new set of drills and I asked him I hope it is for yourself he said yes so he used then and send one of his boy to return them so before I put them away I took a look and on was broken and replaced by an old one not even the right size so that was the end with him, then once he wanted to barrow my aluminum ladder that was in plain view and I said to him I don’t have any he said I see it you have on I said again I don’t have one and that was the end with him.

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#6 posted 06-04-2010 05:05 PM

Hmmm… okay!
For all the times I’ve had my airhose stolen from me when I’m using airtools, ditto extension cords, saw blades, shaper heads removed from a shaper and misplaced or reinstalled upside down, That’s what I mean. The most uncivil co-workers I’ve ever experienced were in woodworking shops, non-union, and upscale. There was a lot more camaraderie in the sweat-shops, like this horrible gig I once had doing millwork in a disgusting mobile-home factory. The people were great, though!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#7 posted 06-04-2010 05:08 PM

poopiekat …...In your first post looks like your co-workers did not like to work with you??

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#8 posted 06-04-2010 05:13 PM

Gmman anyone ask to borrow that $50,000 car you said you have?

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#9 posted 06-04-2010 05:14 PM

I had some trouble when I worked as a mechanic years ago, I had just the week before replaced my 1/2” Craftsman impact wrench with a Blue Point (Snap On) AT-500C long anvil impact. I was working on a car close to closing time, and our porter (I.E. shop / car cleaning kid) decided to start cleaning the shop floor, with all the caustic cleaners, and all right as I was trying to button up the suspension on a customer’s Jag… I had to spend 2 hours re-polishing this guys rims, not to mention the time it took me to get the crap buffed out of my impact wrench…

I am EXTREMELY picky about who I loan tools to. A very few select neighbors, and maybe 3 of my best friends from college… Never had a problem with my tools, but I did borrow a Skil 18V recip saw from a friend, that came to me with dead batteries, that would not take a charge. I was nice and bought him a new battery pack for his recip saw, and bought myself a corded recip saw… That experience just reminded me of why I hate cordless power tools…

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#10 posted 06-04-2010 05:15 PM

Sign over a mirror in my shop reads, ” Your looking at the only tool for loan. If you don’t have what you need, go buy it.” When they ask I just direct them to the wall. Used to have a clip board and pen with forms on it, asking them for a triplicate form and a deposit of $500 cash. That they thought was just a joke. Nobody borrows any tools from my shop. Nobody!!!

-- Methods are many,Principles are few.Methods change often,Principles never do.

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#11 posted 06-04-2010 05:22 PM

I don’t think it’s passion as much as it is ego. It even shows itself on the forum at times. In the shops I have worked guys often settled their disputes the old fashioned way so there tended not to be many that went beyond a few words. If a weasel like the guy who tried to swipe your router base was found out he would quickly be out the door voluntarily or involuntarily.

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#12 posted 06-04-2010 05:24 PM

I only have a home shop, so no co-workers. But I will NOT loan out a tool (other than a wheelbarrow). If soemone needs a tool, I tell them to bring whatever it is over and I’ll help them. I learned this when I was helping my neighbor fix our shared fence. He grabbed my level and used it as a hammer! (not on a nail, but to sqaure a post)

-- Steve - Impatience is Expensive

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#13 posted 06-04-2010 05:24 PM

Sign over a mirror in my shop reads, ” Your looking at the only tool for loan. If you don’t have what you need, go buy it.” When they ask I just direct them to the wall. Used to have a clip board and pen with forms on it, asking them for a triplicate form and a deposit of $500 cash. That they thought was just a joke. Nobody borrows any tools from my shop. Nobody!!!

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That’s good :)

-- Ohh mann...pancakes and boobies...I'll bet that's what Heaven is like! ♣ ♣ ♣ ♣

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#14 posted 06-04-2010 05:26 PM

A couple of years ago, I worked with another contractor building a massive 1600 sf deck made out of composite material that was multi-tiered. i designed the deck, then strapped on my tool belt and went out and helped him build it.

My old chisels were really no good, so I picked up new ones. Within the first two days, He had used two of my chisels to remove nails. I went to use one of the chisels and to my dismay, there was a round chip in it. I went after the other one, again, a round chip.

I billed him for new chisels, but he denied it and wouldn’t pay.

We see each other occasionally and I am friendly with him. I just went and got new chisels and forgave him and forgot. I talk with him, but if he asks to use a tool, I gently and kindly tell him no.

-- http://www.ahomespecialist.net, Making design and application one. †

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#15 posted 06-04-2010 05:28 PM

I still loan my tools now and then if I think the person is responsible. If that turns out not to be so then I tell them that if they come back for another. If I borrow something (which I haven’t done for years) and something happens to it then I quickly replace it.

-- Ohh mann...pancakes and boobies...I'll bet that's what Heaven is like! ♣ ♣ ♣ ♣

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