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rook

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1510 days ago

I hate to ask this question! I don’t expect you to make to choice for me, I just need to understand the dfference between two saws from the same mfr. Both are Grizzly and I have read very solid reviews about Grizzly products.

I think I have it narrowed down to these two: G0690 (cost $1,150) and G1023RLWX (cost $1,295). On Grizzly’s site they are $150 apart in price. The lower priced one is 3hp and the higher price is 5hp. After my most recent experience and watching “Tim the tool man Taylor” a few years ago, I totally understand that more power is almost always better.

I am a hobbyist with just under two years experience and will never be commercial. This will most likely be the last table saw I will ever buy, so I hope I get it right.

So why is one model only $150 and a full 2hp more than the other one? I am fairly sure that either of these saws will meet the work I will do for a very long time.

Is there anything about the 3 hp G0690 that makes it a better buy than a the 5hp G1023RLWX?

Thanks in advance for your patience and responses to super basic questions like this!!
Randy

-- Randy Hardy, Woodinville, WA


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a1Jim

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#1 posted 1510 days ago

I like Grizzly products but don’t know about these two saws .One thing I do know is that many people by under powered saw an end up upgrade several times. I short I would guess $150 saw might be one you might want to upgrade in the not to distant future.

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Jerry

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#2 posted 1510 days ago

I manage to get by well with our 1 1/2 hp Ridgid saws. When the wood pinches the blade stalls. We might have a kick back occassionally but mostly the blade stalls. I have a friend who has a 5 hp Powermatic. He told me it has 3 belts that run the pulley and told me he actually will only use one belt because if a problem happens the belt will just slip on the pulley but if he were to run all 3 belts he would just “eat wood”. With that said though, I am sure for just 150.00 more I would certainly opt for the more power and hope not to have to eat too much wood.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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CharlieM1958

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#3 posted 1510 days ago

As long as you have the power required available, I’d go with the extra horsepower.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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live4ever

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#4 posted 1510 days ago

The price difference may stem from the fact that the 0690 has a Leeson motor. I’m not a machine-head, but I know those motors are highly regarded. That being said, you’re probably just better off paying a small amount for more power. It’s not like the non-Leeson is going to be junk.

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dbhost

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#5 posted 1510 days ago

I have friends with the G0691, and the G1023, and have made cuts on both saws. They both cut like a dream.

I personally have major drool factor for the G0691 + T10223 sliding miter table attachment, + T10222 router table attachment. I don’t know if they fit the G1023, but most likely they do…

Mind you, I get by quite well with a cheap Universal motor Ryobi 1.5 HP saw… The 3HP and cast iron top would both be huge upgrades…

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crank49

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#6 posted 1510 days ago

The 690 is an excellent saw and so is the 1023 from all I have read. I have neither, but would love to have either one. I think the 1023 series is the newest design where the arbor assembly rides vertically on guide rods and the riving knife travels with the blade. The 690 series is the older design with the arbor mounted on a heavy cast iron swing arm. It has a riving knife also, all new saws are required to have this, but I think it was an add-on and does not travel vertically with the arbor. Personally, I like the older heavier design just from what I read and see, but I would prefer the operation of the newer style. Don’t forget to add shipping costs to your decision parameters.
Oops! I just looked it up again, the 690 series has a moving riving knife also, so it’s even more of a toss-up.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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thatwoodworkingguy

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#7 posted 1510 days ago

I agree with everyone else. Yours paying a handsome amount for the saw to begin with so its logical to pay the small amount more to get some more power. I promise that later on you’ll appreciate the power increase.

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TheWoodsmith

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#8 posted 1510 days ago

I invariably opt for more power whenever possible, as a wear and tear thing. ie; a 3 hp saw will probably cut anything a hobbyist will throw at it, but over time that saw is probably going to wear out quicker than if you were running more power i guess its like this, If guy “a” can bench 250 pounds maximum and guy “b” can bench 350 odds are guy b will throw 250 around alot longer than guy a will. (analogy pulled from out of you know where..) you gotta be thinking about the the cost of owning that saw over time my .02

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SnowyRiver

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#9 posted 1510 days ago

I usually like to opt for the most power too, but with a table saw, 3 HP will do pretty much everything. I always get concerned with the 5 and 7 HP saws with kick back etc….the 3 hp is dangerous enough. A couple of guys I know that have the 5 HP saws have stock feeders on them for that reason.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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Eagle1

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#10 posted 1509 days ago

I would go with the more expensive one. If you have read what i’m going through now, with getting another bandsaw. There was 2 grizzleys I was looking at. They were the same except. For the extra $100.00 the wheels on the cheaper one are cast allinum ( sorry can’t spell right not enough coffee) The other had cast iron. Going with the cast iron. What I would do especially since it sounds like you have access to both. Look them over with a fine tooth comb, and then decide. I also looked at the Rikon also. My decession for the grizzly over the Rikon was the tilt mechanisim it’s heaver than the Rikon. Also look if you find the differences, I would think what will last me longer. I hope this helps.

-- Tim, Missouri ....Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what the heck happened

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knotscott

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#11 posted 1509 days ago

I didn’t read the details of every response, so apologies if this has been covered, but the new G1023RLW is a different design than the former G1023 series. The trunnions have been largely redesigned to accommodate a riving knife….about the only common trunnion part are the brackets that mount to the cabinet. The former G1023 series was based on a traditional design popularized by the Delta Unisaw….the G0690 actually appears to be a modified version of this design, using a similar arbor on a swing arm, triple belt drive, etc. The newer G1023RLW is very different…the blade and arbor rise vertically – no swing arm, has a blade shroud, and the drive system features a poly v-belt. I can’t say from experience that one is better than the other, but can say that older G1023’s are not representative of the newer ones.

new 1023R:

old G1023:

G0690:

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