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Forum topic by trevor7428 posted 08-21-2016 05:22 AM 1187 views 0 times favorited 24 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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trevor7428

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08-21-2016 05:22 AM

So I just purchased a sawstop PCS 36” (which I’m excited about) but this saw is alot lower to the ground then my previous delta 36-725.

So my issue is the sawstop is lower than my outfeed table. My outfeed now sits above my new sawstop. Its not very practacle cutting a couple inches off the whole bottom of my outfeed table. Not really sure what to do with current outfeed table if I’m forced to build a new for sawstop.
It was specifically designed to be a outfeed table. Not sure if realistic to remove the top and repurposed as other furniture

Also. My jointer would sit under the left wing of my delta saw. But unfortunately I would have to remove the whole fence on my jointer, if I want to continue to have my jointer in same location. So it doesn’t get in the way for long crosscuts.

Here’s an idea of my current shop layout

Any idea where to put my jointer now? I currently have PVC pipe dust collection that goes to ceiling than down to connect to router table (used to be under delta right table saw wing) table saw and the jointer from 1 pipe that T’d off.

It doesn’t seem like a good idea to raise the whole sawstop to same height as delta, does it?

Has anyone else ran into issue’s like mine after buying a sawstop or any saw for that matter, that sat below there previous saw?

-- Thank You Trevor OBrion


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JAAune

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#1 posted 08-21-2016 05:27 AM

I raised my tablesaw on a 3” wood platform. Changing tool heights to be whatever is most useful makes sense.

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splatman

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#2 posted 08-21-2016 05:53 AM

Your best bet is to raise your SS to match your outfeed table. After all, you are used to working at the height of your old TS. Looks like your first project on your spiffy SS is a platform for it to sit on. Paint the platform gloss black and it will look like it’s part of the SS.

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#3 posted 08-21-2016 07:38 AM

AS Splatman advised raise the saw.

I went looking for a decent picture of your sawstop PCS 36 but didnt find anything.
I wanted to see the feet area of the saw frame so I could make a objective suggestion.

So see if this would work for you:

Go buy threaded adjustable feet and check the thread profile then but four rivnuts or nutserts th same thread profile drill the saw feet out and fit the nuts screw in the adjusable feet and your back on the level playing field again.

-- Regards Robert

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MikesProjects

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#4 posted 08-21-2016 08:18 AM

I recently lifted up my saw to match the outfeed table when I upgraded. Im now thinking I should lift it again to get my jointer to fit under the wing like yours, I like that better.

Like others mentioned, build a base & paint it gloss black.

-- -Mike, Southern California, YouTube User ( Give & Take )

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Redoak49

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#5 posted 08-21-2016 11:25 AM

I raised my Sawstop with a 2×4 base painted black. The new base fits inside the industrial mobile base. The difficulty in raising the saw will depend on which base he has.

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#6 posted 08-21-2016 11:39 AM

There was a Jerry Lewis movie called “Don’t Raise the Bridge, Lower the River.” In this case you should raise the bridge – you’re already comfortable working at that height anyway…..

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Fred Hargis

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#7 posted 08-21-2016 12:10 PM

What they said. Mine was only about 3/4” lower than I wanted, I simply put a piece of 3/4” plywood inside the mobile base to raise it up.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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Woodbum

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#8 posted 08-21-2016 12:19 PM

Same here with my Griz 1023. I raised it 1” on the mobile base and now it fits the outfeed bench

-- "Now I'm just another old guy wearing funny clothes"

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canadianchips

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#9 posted 08-22-2016 01:37 PM

How tall are you ?
If the old table was comfortable height make the NEW one match.
I personally dont like cutting on table saw to high.
Mine are all 36” and thats what IM comfy with.
I would put jointer on right side of saw.

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muleskinner

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#10 posted 08-22-2016 02:36 PM

Let’s see, looks like you have two options.

option #1: Discard old outfeed table, build new one, rearrange shop layout for new jointer location, adjust to working at new table saw height.

option #2: Raise table saw.

-- Visualize whirled peas

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#11 posted 08-22-2016 02:37 PM

give your new person in your shop a raise ….....he looks like he could handle anything …......you throw at him …....... LMAO

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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Ashthewoodist

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#12 posted 08-22-2016 07:08 PM

Like above you can do a platform for your Sawstop. I saw one recently and it looked pretty cool.

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trevor7428

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#13 posted 08-23-2016 08:09 PM

Thanks everyone for the recommendations! Wouldn’t raising the saw onto a platform, defeat the purpose of purchasing the mobile base? I don’t plan on moving my Sawstop around in my shop ever. Except if I move to new house, but the only reason I spent $200 on the mobile base was because everyone was telling me to buy the mobile base and SS at the same time. (Which made since) Since it seems like I will have to make a 2×4 base/ platform for the SS to sit on. Does anyone recommend returning the mobile base?

How much taller does the ICS mobile base make the saw stop then the normal or PCS mobile base?
I only need a couple inches to clear my jointer, which is my main concern. Maybe the ICS base would resolve my issue?

Any recommendations on getting the SS on top of this platform? Lol

...damn Sawstop, why did you have to make your saw so low to the ground? Or are all professional style table saws this low?

Thanks again for the help

-- Thank You Trevor OBrion

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clin

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#14 posted 08-23-2016 08:32 PM

With an ICS base, the saw is maybe 3/16” of an inch higher. The base forms a cradle with two heavy steel straps or bars. So when down, these straps rest on the floor and the saw on the straps.

Bottom line, very little height difference. An ICS base is not going to address your issue.

If you never plan to move the saw, then no reason to have a mobile base. As said, just build a platform to set the saw to the height you want.

I can only speak of the ICS base, but I suppose you could build a wooden platform. then bolt the saw to this platform so the platform serves as an extension of the saw cabinet. The platform would have to be the size of the cabinet and so there would be no extra room to ensure the saw can’t slide off the platform. But bolting it would ensure it can’t do that.

If you did this with an ICS base, the ICS is bigger than the PCS and you have to mod the ICS base with parts from SawStop for it to fit the PCS saw. In this case, I would build the platform the size of the ICS saw, and again bolt the PCS to that. It would be a bit more stable with the larger platform.

But if you really won’t be moving it, I sure wouldn’t buy an ICS mobile base. Lots of money you won’t use.

-- Clin

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GregD

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#15 posted 08-23-2016 08:51 PM


Any idea where to put my jointer now?

- trevor7428

How about my garage?
;-)

-- Greg D.

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