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Forum topic by budoderek posted 06-03-2010 12:34 AM 1407 views 0 times favorited 27 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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06-03-2010 12:34 AM

So I’m in the market to upgrade by Table Saw situation. I’m thinking about going and picking up a Craftsman 21833 saw this weekend when the craftsman club sale starts.

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I’ve read some good reviews here on LJ’s and gone and checked out the floor model. $409 seems like a pretty good bang for the buck. Just thought I’d bounce the idea off my new friends here on LJ’s


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#1 posted 06-03-2010 12:40 AM

FYI: I’ve looked around for a Ridgid 4511, but I have a better chance of winning the lottery. According to Ridgid themselves the 4511 has been discountinued and there is no date on when they will produce another Contractor saw.

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#2 posted 06-03-2010 01:59 AM

I know others will disagree but I never met a craftsman table saw I liked. Sorry about that Craftsman fans.

-- Custom furniture

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#3 posted 06-03-2010 02:08 AM

The Craftsman contractor saws just are not what they used to be for my buck. Good price but really what are you getting for that price? About 2 + years ago I bought one, used it, took it back and spent the extra dollars on a General cabinet saw and feel that was the best thing I ever did. I love my General TS!

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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#4 posted 06-03-2010 02:09 AM

Just purchased a Shop Fox 1725, love it and paid about $500.

-- SW la.

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#5 posted 06-03-2010 02:18 AM

Do some research and buy what you think is best for you. If you ask here, you could get 20,000 different opinions. Good Luck!

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#6 posted 06-03-2010 02:58 AM

I agree with juniorjock you may be more confused after this post then when you started it. With that said I own a craftsman saw just like this, but I think it was an earlier model. When I bought mine it was on sell and then I bought the floor model to make it even cheaper (I think I paid $350.00, it was regular $529.00 on sell for $399.00). The price sounds great for this saw. I cut 1/2” and 3/4” plywood all the time and it cuts great with a decent blade. The main limitation on this saw to me is that it’s higher than a cabinet saw and it only cuts 25”, so if you plan on adding a extention table and a new fence your talking another $300.00 to $500.00 dollars. If this is what you can afford right now like in my case, just an idea but I plan on using this saw for dados when I upgrade. Hope this is helpful.

-- Luke 23: 42-43

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#7 posted 06-03-2010 03:23 AM

I also just sold my old unisaw, it was a 3HP, right tilt, with a unifence and a mobile base. $650. What shopguryl and I are telling you this for is that if you wait and look around you can get some amazing deals on craigslist or at estate sales or auctions. Hold out and see what you can find for a decent price. You will never be disappointed buying a used tool as long as you are willing to put out a little time rehabbing it and making it like new again.

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#8 posted 06-03-2010 03:30 AM

The reason I didn’t like the C’man saws were the miter slots are not industry standard, and, for some reason there are tabs in them which prevents the use of sleds.

-- Wish I were Norm's Nephew

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#9 posted 06-03-2010 03:35 AM

Run away, run away

-- Joe

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#10 posted 06-03-2010 03:42 AM

The 21833 has the standard miter slots. My current bench top craftsman has the “craftsman special” miter slots, and they truthfully are a pain.

I’ve been looking around for some time now and have found pro’s and con’s to all the saws in my price range. There seem to be lovers and haters of all brands. I would love nothing more than to go out and buy a true cabinet saw, but I can’t justify spending that kind of cash on a single tool that I use for a weekend hobby.

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#11 posted 06-03-2010 04:17 AM

If I wanted a new table saw, I would take a hard look at Grizzly. My personal table saw is a Jet, but I have some other Grizzly tools and I am consistently impressed by the their quality and value.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#12 posted 06-03-2010 04:37 AM

I have to agree with the consensus to stay away from Craftsman contractor saws. I fought with one for over a decade trying to get decent cuts out of it. Once I got my current saw I have asked myself many times why I waited so long to make the switch.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#13 posted 06-03-2010 05:21 AM

On the whole it looks like a decent saw. There are a few details that I would really look into before you drop the cash.

  1. The extension wings are stamped steel. While they could be well engineered, they could also be flimsy.
  2. The extruded aluminum rails don’t look all that stable. If you can, take a look at an actual model and test the fence out for ease of use, end deflection, and how easy it is to get off the table.
  3. The fence rails are split right and left at the middle of the table.

But my biggest concern is the riving knife. The good news is that it has a riving knife. The bad news is that the supplied riving knife is not usable for non-through cuts. You could probably get a machine shop to make you a low-profile version if there isn’t one available from Craftsman.

My 2 cents,

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#14 posted 06-03-2010 07:28 AM

For the short time I have been toying with wood, I am on my third tablesaw.
The first was a cheap craftsman that was on sale for $399 with free shipping and I wanted something on wheels. It had a sled built into it an no miter slot. I was a desaster. I gave it to guy who was installing my floor.

The second one was a Bosch 4100. I used it for about 8 months; never been happy with it. The top was not flat and the blade will not align to the miter slot. I discovered that too late, I was learning. It is parked in my toolshed for when i need it for remodling jobs around the house.

My third one was a birthday gift from my wife, mother-in-law and my son. I got it 3 months ago. They gave me a SawStop professional saw. the assembly was easy. After litle adjustment, I had square cuts.
The only thing I dislike about it is the different break for regular blade and dado blade.

Oh yes I tipped the break already. No not a finger but the mitter touch the blade. my fault I changed the angle and did not check.
I know have a nice ornament on the wall that cost me about $125!

But it is by far the best of the three.

Buy one that is good and buy once!

-- Abbas, Castro Valley, CA

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#15 posted 06-03-2010 07:53 AM

I feel obliged to add my 2 cents… I would steer clear of any new low cost manufacture – period.
Shop for an old used unit which has a full cast iron table – and blade NOT carried on motor shaft.
These are easily rebuilt and aligned to perfection, at a very low cost. Do take into consideration your power available in your shop space when choosing horsepower. Just another opinion.

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