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Forum topic by mnausa posted 08-18-2016 10:06 PM 497 views 0 times favorited 2 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-18-2016 10:06 PM

Topic tags/keywords: pine finishing wood conditioner

The project is made from southern yellow pine and will be stained. I would like to condition the wood to reduce blotches. Can I use Zensser bulls eye shellac as the wood conditioner, then Minwax stain, and then waterborne poly as a topcoat?

-- Mike, Mississippi,

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#1 posted 08-18-2016 10:27 PM

Yellow pine is a bitch to stain, but I love that stuff. Wood conditioners are mostly some type of thinned down polly, shellac or even water based polly would work thin it down at least 50/50. . If you use a full strength shellac or other sealer you wont get much stain to take. What I like to do is seal it up then mix a little stain in my clear coat which makes it a toner, works much better than trying to stain it out right. I don’t recommend pollyshades. You’ll get a ton of different answers do some test samples on scrap.

-- "Boy you could get more work done it you quit flapping your pie hole" Grandpa

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#2 posted 08-18-2016 10:34 PM

Mike, you can use the Zinsser but you will need to cut it to 1/2# or 1#. TEST whatever you do on scrap before attacking your project. The stain will need to be somewhat darker because the shellac will seal the wood to some degree. If the Minwax stain is oil based, you might want to apply another coat of the Zinsser before the WB poly. If the Minwax stain is WB then you won’t need the second Zinsser coat. However, test your proposed finishing schedule from start to finish before doing anything with your project to ensure you will get the result you want. HTH

-- Art

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